New Raw 2 Trailer - Page 2

The Duggler · 05-13-2003, 01:01 PM

Good point, but still, it would suck to have a ground special sequenced like that. I want to climb the turnbuckle myself

Professor S · 05-13-2003, 02:19 PM

The problem with having control of every move is that the engines are just too fast now. Wrestlers pop up from everything, leaving you little time to climb the turnbuckle and execute the maneuver. I find this more frustrating than challenging.

But I do agree that they should allow you to hit your special high flying maneuver without using a sequence. Bu then again, there might not even be a sequence and we could all be talking out our asses, which is most likely.

The Duggler · 05-13-2003, 03:02 PM

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The problem with having control of every move is that the engines are just too fast now. Wrestlers pop up from everything, leaving you little time to climb the turnbuckle and execute the maneuver. I find this more frustrating than challenging.

Well I see that as flaws in the engine. AKI's engines don't have that flaw.

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Bu then again, there might not even be a sequence and we could all be talking out our asses, which is most likely.

heheeh you are right, but then again, aren't we here for that?

Professor S · 05-13-2003, 05:07 PM

Unfortuantely the AKI engine doesn't really exist anymore. Even the AKI developed Def Jam game sped up the engine to the point where it was very difficult to perform an aerial move.

I'm afriad we're all going to have to get used to the modern day engines that speed games up so that they resemble fighting games. Its not realistic or even that fun IMO, but it sells.

Now Anchor claimed they are revamping the engine to make it much more of a sim, but I'll have to play it before I'll believe it.

nWoCHRISnWo · 05-14-2003, 02:09 AM

I agree with Ranzid, I want to climb the ropes myself and jump myself...

And I hate the way most wrestling games are now. Like The Strangler said, opponents getting up within no time, you can't even do top rope moves. Every new wrestling game is supposed to be better than the last and add sim elements and bla bla bla, but I always see the same old crap. I was so excited for Def Jam, the beloved AKI engine, but they ruined that for me too.

I would rather havea wrestling game with horrible graphics and awesome gameplay than one with amazing graphics and horrible gameplay, but I really, REALLY hope Raw 2 will be good.

TheGame · 05-14-2003, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
I agree with Ranzid, I want to climb the ropes myself and jump myself...

And I hate the way most wrestling games are now. Like The Strangler said, opponents getting up within no time, you can't even do top rope moves. Every new wrestling game is supposed to be better than the last and add sim elements and bla bla bla, but I always see the same old crap. I was so excited for Def Jam, the beloved AKI engine, but they ruined that for me too.

I would rather havea wrestling game with horrible graphics and awesome gameplay than one with amazing graphics and horrible gameplay, but I really, REALLY hope Raw 2 will be good.

Well, I think SD has shown a lot of improvement over it's series, even though it has never come close to an Aki game.

as far as the top rope thing, it only really works in games when you execute a special move first... well, that's the only way to keep them down in SD and DJV.

I think if Raw 2 has Auto top-rope specials, it would be better than what SD and DJV have, an almost non existant top rope game. If they want those as specials I'm fine, as long as there is a choice between the manual and automatic moves.

The Duggler · 05-14-2003, 09:13 AM

I have no problems doing top ropes jumps in DJV, yes it's more difficult than in previous AKI games but it's still possible. And I wouldn't give hope on a good sim engine from AKI, I mean they are the best, it's only a matter of time before they are picked up to do a real wrestling game. DJV was a bit disappointing, but I'm still very impressed by it also. A few things that sucks but you definetly still have that AKI feel into it. And don't you guys just love the rope grapple that they added? That would be perfect for moves like Rey' 619. Anyways, it's a good thing I kept my N64 with No Mercy for now.

TheGame · 05-14-2003, 03:13 PM

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/402/402422p1.html

"May 13, 2003 - THQ's WWE Raw 2 has been as elusive as any title in the year or so since it was announced. It's been delayed and left out of multiple gamer's days and other events. At E3, there's no hiding and the limited demo of Raw 2 we played offered a few hints about what we can expect.
There are referees now in ring and you can beat them up. While there's an option for different types of referees, this feature wasn't functional in the demo we played. Referees that get caught in the middle of a big brawl and take punches will fight back. Earl Hebner has been known to mix it up with Triple H on the WWE TV shows and now you can get the same thrill in Raw 2. In the demo we played the referee was pretty tame and didn't get too upset after taking a few to the chin.

The matchup screens aren't flat poses anymore. Like the television show, you get little animated scenes of the wrestlers turning toward the camera or scowling. It's animation that's done in front of a blue screen so it looks as fake in the videogame as it does on television.

Even with the extremely limited demo (no weapons, no out of ring activity) we noticed a couple of new gameplay systems. There are now several mid-rope moves you can use against your opponent when they're arms are tied up in the ropes. None of them knocked the guy out of the ring but we saw Triple H stomp mudholes and throw other moves against Kurt Angle while he was wrapped up.

Quick moves off the ropes seem to be more common now. Even guys like the Undertaker can quickly go from a standstill to a quick bounce of the nearest ropes into a quick strike move. It's very intuitive and especially handy when you get a guy like Rey Mysterio and all of his acrobatic moves. Mysterio's high-rick maneuvers are all lightning quick and complicated to the point that they look like mistakes until he finally delivers a flying body press or what have you.

When wrestlers are down on the mat there's a whole new grapple system that opens up. When a wrestler is down you can approach his head or his feet, hit the button for a soft grapple to grab him and then you have the option to drag him around, turn him over, pick him up, execute a strike move or put a hold on him. You won't be able to switch from a head move to a legs move but you will have all kinds of moves available to you on whatever end of his body you grab first.

We'll have much more on WWE Raw 2 in the next 48 hours of E3 when we'll have more details and a better understanding of what's what in the game. "