Just My Opinion...

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
Ok, answer me this, in all honesty, do you know ANYTHING about Politics of War?

Yes I do know politics of war. I know what happens in war. If there is a war I know why we are going. You think we're are going to war for oil. Where the **** are you getting your information?

I'm done with this.

[Bond]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
Yes I do know politics of war. I know what happens in war. If there is a war I know why we are going. You think we're are going to war for oil. Where the **** are you getting your information?

I'm done with this.

Well, actually oil is part of the reason we are going to war with Iraq. Although it is not the main one.

Freeing up all of the oil will bring wealth to the Iraqi people, and it will also lower oil prices. And probably stimulate our economy.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Bond
Well, actually oil is part of the reason we are going to war with Iraq. Although it is not the main one.

Freeing up all of the oil will bring wealth to the Iraqi people, and it will also lower oil prices. And probably stimulate our economy.

I'm aware of this, I'm just saying oil is not reason we're sending soldiers in Iraq.

[BreakABone]

Well, I generally hate to get into political discussion with anyone whether online or not because many folks ake their political belief to heart, but I got to side with Marc on this one, no matter how you cut it I don't see this war being just.

1)To remove Saddam from office, I'm sure all of you folks will tell me how evil he is and so on, but does the US really have the right to go to another country and change their regime? I mean heck, the US was formed because the US didn't want interference from Britian and yet here we are doing the same exact crap.

2)To help the Iraqi people? I mean that is all well and dandy, but there are problems at home that need to be dealt with first, I mean it makes no sense to go visit someone's home and complain about it's problem when your house is in the same shape. And while we are at it, why don't we feed thekids in Africa, find cures for diseases and install technology in 3rd world countries. It isn't nor will it ever be the US's job to make the world a better place for everyone.

3)Oil? Well that is the main reason most folks bring up, and god knows we better not be going to war for some goddamin oil.

Well........



The second we freed Umm Quasr or whatever that port town is called, the tankers were fillin up on free gas. I can't prove this, but trust me. This is about oil.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by Stonecutter
Well........



The second we freed Umm Quasr or whatever that port town is called, the tankers were fillin up on free gas. I can't prove this, but trust me. This is about oil.

Bingo, that's what people fail to realize, Oil = Gasoline.

You notice how much the prices were inflating during the " tension " period?

What do you think will happen when America controls those Oil wells. The prices will drop to a steal.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
Bingo, that's what people fail to realize, Oil = Gasoline.

You notice how much the prices were inflating during the " tension " period?

What do you think will happen when America controls those Oil wells. The prices will drop to a steal.

ok, when I see this I'll believe it. Then I'll say I'm wrong.

The thing that would **** the US over in this would be an OPEC embargo, there would be no gas, but I'm fairly confident that the US took care of that long before the war started. They know we can't have it like the 70s again when gas went up a dollar.

Warning #1
-TheGame

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
ok, when I see this I'll believe it. Then I'll say I'm wrong.

Uhh, Half of it has already happened........You don't drive do you?

Even we in Canada are feeling it, Prices were up to High 80's per Litre, and and that is Obsurd.

So unless you really are living in a cave, you have already been proven wrong.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
Uhh, Half of it has already happened........You don't drive do you?

Even we in Canada are feeling it, Prices were up to High 80's per Litre, and and that is Obsurd.

So unless you really are living in a cave, you have already been proven wrong.

I was meaning to your last statement.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
I was meaning to your last statement.

Again, it's already happening, why do you think they are having all the british soldiers protect those oil wells?

Well, I'll belive they're protecting them to save them from being set on fire, that's not a good thing.

[Professor S]

Wow Rick... I'm not even going to dignify your posts by pointing out the facts I've been pointing out over and over and over again. You are filth, and I won't waste another word on you.

Warning #1
-TheGame

[gekko]

I'm sorry, but you are a complete idiot.

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
So i was sitting in my family room, watching BBC World News. When all of a sudden, President bush is quoted to say " Treat our POW's Humanely" Yes, much like he is doing with all the afgans sittin in cells smaller than most mid-sized cars.

Afghans are treated better than any POWs in the entire world ever have. Let's see, they get to stay in cells, get fed, get medical treatment, and do not get abused in any way, shape, or form. All that's left is giving them a 5-star hotel. What part of prisoner do you not understand?

Or maybe you're too busy bitching about other people who you claim know nothing, to actually learn something yourself. How are the US prisoners treated? Well, they are given no medical treatment, they are hardly fed, they are severly beaten regularly, and they are also assasinated.

Get your head out of your ass. Try having a ****ing clue what you're saying before you open your uneducated mouth next time.

All this talk about War, and some American cities having mass Anti-War protests got me thinking. Why are most people for this war? " Because saddam needs to be taken out of power", A quote often heard on CNN, but beyond that, have they got any logical and well thought out. No, of course they can't, because they merely feed off the information given to them by a bias news station.

What the hell do you want, a 20-page report? A lot of people who oppose the war know little. Those in favor are aware of the major reasons for this war.

As for bias, surprising coming from you, American televisions slants left you idiot! Yes, left! Anti-war, not pro-war.

Diplomacy was given a chance yes, but instead of having a more traditional war, what do the americans do?
Call in the Air Support! According to reports there were less than 100 Iraqi soldiers and conscripts holding a town, and America, being the brave state they are, called in
F 16 fighters to Napalm them into next week, lovely don't you think?

Hey, here's an idea, let's get more troops killed! Oh wait, here's a better one, how about you get a ****ing clue?

As for the report which you seem to know little about, the Iraqi soldiers were a joke. Being the humane state that we are, though it may come to a surprise to you, we called in tanks, who used machine gun fire on these guys to try to prevent any innocent people from getting hurt. It was later learned that the town was occupied by 120 Iraqi soldiers, and after a long stand-off, where the Americans played nice, they called in a strike from a Harrier. We could've demolished the whole town hours ago, but we didn't. But hey, wouldn't expect you to know the story.

Also, the recent " Accident" Involving a British helicopter, being shot down by a US Patriot missle.... Umm, Patriot missles have to be fired manually, doesn't anyone else see a problem with this? This would be the second set of friendly fire casualties within the last 2 years involving americans.... First they bomb four innocent Canadian soldiers ( The Pilot was dis-honourably discharged in the end, so some closure for that) and now this. American efficiency at it's best i suppose.

And this coming from someone with a lot of experience in battle and knows what he's talking about. Oh wait, that's right, you don't have a ****ing clue. Why don't you describe what it's like to be an astronaut next?

Because then, and only then, will they realize that the world isn't going to be a pushover anymore.

Every American soldier who dies, which unfourtunately is a honorable human being, unlike the worthless piece of **** that you are, is a direct result of American morals, and dignity.

[Xantar]

One of the things we often forget about World War II is how little people like us really knew about what was going on. The D-Day landing took us all by surprise, for example. Oh sure, we knew it was coming, but we had no idea where it would be, how big it would be or how successful it would be. Why should we have? The Germans didn't know that stuff either.

It was a big, confusing mess. We've been spending the decades afterward figuring out what happened. It'll be the same way with this war. All we know is that a number of Americans died on this particular date. There's no way of telling whether this "shock and awe" strategy will work in the end because if it goes as planned, it's going to take a lot longer than a few days. In the meantime, we'll only be hearing about the number of deaths and what cities have been taken.

We all generally agree now that World War II turned out more or less the right way. I wonder if somebody back in the day would have come to the same conclusion looking at the flattened rubble that used to be cities and the enormous death count.

I don't know what this war will look like in the final analysis. Neither do you. We only know a few things. One is that the war is happening and that nothing will stop it. Another is that Saddam Hussein will be out of power one way or another. Instead of talking about justifications and past mistakes, I suggest that we start worrying about the future.