Amazon.co.jp sells out of Xbox in hours.

[Professor S]

SNES played second fiddle to the Genesis. I really don't think there is much of an argument about that. SNES might have been successful, but it definitely played the N64 to Sony's Playstation.

Coding... considering how easy it is to code for the X-Box and Gamecube, I don't think that enters into the equation. As for cost of production, come on, if Square doesn't know that FFX or FFXI would sell like hotcakes on either the Box or the Cube, you're nuts.

While there are no games that couldn't be ported from the X-Box now, just wait. They are coming this year. I think Marrowind comes out this month and I don't think you can play that without a HD, but I'm not sure. Oh and Project Ego of course.

I keep on saying things change, because you are adamant about stating that Square will never come to X-box becasue the X-Box won't outsell the PS2. If you really thought that things change, then you would recognize the fact that they COULD change their stance.

As for the LEGAL ramifications of Sony's ownership in Square, I don't really give a rat's crap about legalities. I work in the marketing/business community. The REAL world. I know what goes on behind the scenes, and legalities play a very small part of it. Businesses basically treat laws like American football players treat their rules: "Its only illegal if you get caught."

[Null]

well. as my final statment. i'll thro one back at you.


If Squaresoft truly wants to develope for another console. They WILL do it. if you dont think they will, you're the one thats being Nieve.


as for the Gensis. isnt that exactly what i just said. some say it did better some say it didnt Personally i say the SNES was better. so say what you want about that. But by no means did ANY of them "Rule the console world"

[Professor S]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree ojn the whole on Sony's influence with Square. Personally, I find it hard to believe that Sony didn't tie their hands with the bailout. I have no proof of this other than my business instict and Sony's prior business practices, though. So I could very well be talking out of my a$$

And if you can say that Sony ruled the console world with the success of the original PSX, then it can be safely said that the Genesis ruled the console world at one point. But if you don't think the PSX ruled the console world, then we'll just have to disagree on that also.

Thank you for the lively argument though, Null. You gave me a good mental workout.

[GameKinG]

On the subject of FFXI going to xbox, it is definetly the least likely console it will go to even if it sells well. Why? Square made it pretty clear that sony's hold over them (and fairly large share) will defend against most cases of it going to other consoles. Also, it seems more likely it would go to nintendo (even though I personaly will say it wont) since they want it put on GBA anyway.

Last there is xbox which seems to have been given the least attention from square.

[Professor S]

If Square really doesn't want to develop for X-Box, even if it is very popular, well... thats just really stupid IMO. No wonder they almost went under.

[Bond]

Originally posted by GameKinG
On the subject of FFXI going to xbox, it is definetly the least likely console it will go to even if it sells well. Why? Square made it pretty clear that sony's hold over them (and fairly large share) will defend against most cases of it going to other consoles. Also, it seems more likely it would go to nintendo (even though I personaly will say it wont) since they want it put on GBA anyway.

Last there is xbox which seems to have been given the least attention from square.

Square is developing a game for the Xbox, it's just not Final Fantasy.

[Professor S]

Really? Already? What game and where can I find info on it?

[Shadow Fox]

Anyway- back to the subject....

Ok, Xbox sold great in Japan on Amazon in a few hours- great. But must I remind everyone that GameCube sold out on Amazon.com in a few minutes?? Nonetheless, this IS good Xbox news, but like most specualted news, it must be taken with a grain of salt.

[Professor S]

Hell, I take my coffee with a grain of salt

I think the main reason why this is big news though, is that before hearing this I thought that the XBox simply had no hope due to Japanese nationalism. I think the fact that it sold out may show that Japanese citizens are willing to tryst foreign products.

[Xantar]

Didn't anybody read my post?!?

I'm so ignored...

[Old Skool]

Originally posted by Xantar
Didn't anybody read my post?!?

I'm so ignored...

No we don't like you!!! ..................J/K

[Professor S]

LOL Xantar

I wasn't saying that Amazon Sell Out of X-Box = Tons o' Yen at all. I'm just saying its a very good sign, that's all. I honestly didn't think it was going to do THAT well.

[Xantar]

Eh...so let's take an extreme case. Amazon Japan has only 5 XBoxes available. They sell out in a few hours. Is this such a good sign?

I'm not saying that's what happened. For all we know, Amazon Japan had three hundred units that sold out within hours. But my point is that for all we know, they could have had only 5 (although I doubt it).

I don't see this selling out as a good sign. It's also not a bad sign. The only thing we can take from this is that if you're Japanese, you won't be able to get an XBox off Amazon. If you read anything else into it, you're just buying into propaganda (hey, what did you expect from company representatives?).

[Professor S]

I honestly don't see how you don't think that Amazon Japan selling out of XBox preorders in hours isn't a good sign for MS, especially since the entire nation is supposedly laughing at the console.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one too.