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Old 03-16-2003, 10:55 PM   #16
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i used to watch wrestling so maybe my point is valid. i think that they should get rid of all the wcw ppl cause that ruined it. why do u think they got rid of wcw?duh...cause the ppl in it sucked and now wwe sucks
To put it frank, I'm one of the nicer wrestling fans on these here board so just trying to be nice, I would take back my comments before the others got here, or you would be in for a world of trouble...
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Old 03-16-2003, 11:51 PM   #17
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Why should he take it back. He has his own opinions about what he likes or dislikes. My only issue is when people feel the need to make fun of wrestling for the sole reason that it makes them feel better to feel superior in some lame way.

While I don't agree with Shiz, I recognize that he's a casual fan, and I can see how a casual fan would not like the WCW roster in WWE. I think its more a reflection on the booking than the talents of the wrestlers, though.

Most WCW were immediately buried upon coming into the WWE. Whether this was a cause of the WWE wrestlers being nervous and inlfuencing booking or Vince stroking his own ego is yet to be seen.
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i used to watch wrestling so maybe my point is valid. i think that they should get rid of all the wcw ppl cause that ruined it. why do u think they got rid of wcw?duh...cause the ppl in it sucked and now wwe sucks
In my opinion, that is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. "They" didn't get rid of WCW because the people in it sucked first of all, that is so far off from the truth it isn't even funny. You probably thought Steve Austin sucked before he become the Rattlesnake, you probably though the Rock sucked when he was Rocky Miavia, and you probably thought Triple H sucked when he was the snobby Hunter Hearst Helmsley... A lot of the time it isn't the wrestlers who suck when you see someone on wrestling who isn't a big name, it could also be how the company is using him. If you ever saw Austin when he was in WCW, I would guess that you would think he sucked. Fast forward to 1996, and suddenly he's a huge name because of the gimmick he was allowed to use and because the company did a good job in getting him over (although in Austin's case it wasn't that hard).

Ex-WCW wrestlers in the WWE aren't ruining anything. The fact is, ex-WCW wrestlers have gone to WWF(E) for years. Chris Jericho was straight from WCW, and he became a pretty big name in the WWF (although he could have become HUGE in my opinion but they ****ed that up). Chris Benoit, from WCW, is a main eventer right now. Like I already said, Austin used to be in WCW too, and same goes for Undertaker and Triple H, although these guys were in WCW a long time ago. Either way, there aren't very many ex-WCW wrestlers that are taking up much time on WWE TV right now anyway. Booker T is becoming somewhat of a main eventer now, but the crowd loves him. Looking at the top matches for Wrestlemania this year coming up in a couple weeks, there's Angle vs Lesnar (both WWE guys from the beginning), Rock vs Austin (Both WWE guys for years), Hogan vs McMahon (Hogan wasn't even in WCW as it was dieing, but either way the crowd loves him now so he doesn't look like much of a problem) and Booker T vs Triple H, where as already mentioned Booker T is a former WCW wrestler. I'd honestly like to know where you got this "WWE sucks because the WCW wrestlers who came in suck" from, because the WCW guys who came in barely have an impact on anything in the current WWE.

Truth is, the WCW guys were made to look like **** for the longest time (this is what helped in making the Invasion a HUGE disaster/dissapointment). You can't blame the wrestlers when Vince doesn't want them to succeed.
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Old 03-18-2003, 08:42 AM   #19
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Go easy on him, Chris. At least he shows some interest and doesn't just blindly bash all wrestling "cause its fake".
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One of the main problem with wrestling is the internet and finding out it's fake. In the old days, we would watch wrestling and want to find out who's better and such. But now we have the internet, attempting to break down nearly everything like backstage happenings, who;s getting a 'push' and so forth. For example, we have already found out that Kurt Angle is going to be out for a year. That has already destroyed all anticipation I've had for the match, since I already have some sense of what's going to happen.

Next thing is all the 5 minute Tv matches that end in some kind of interference. It nothing short of frustrating to watch.
Cut down on the backstage segments. They are annoying as hell.

But the biggest prob the WWf has is they are bored with no competition and I think they are going to threaten to put themselves out of business with the garbage they run and the fact that the roster split still exists.
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Old 03-18-2003, 04:51 PM   #21
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Go easy on him, Chris. At least he shows some interest and doesn't just blindly bash all wrestling "cause its fake".
True, but you know wrestling is a touchy subject.

And I agree with everything mickeydaniels said. On the part about the loads of interference, that really ruins Raw and Smackdown for me almost every week. Interference can be good, but if it's in almost every match then it's way overused and doesn't mean anything anymore. It couldn't hurt if they had some clean victories (this goes mainly for heels of course), in the long run it could help out both the wrestler who lose and the wrestler who won anway.
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