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[Crash]

I had a customer come into the store today, and she asked... hey, when does this zelda come out for the playstation... i (literally) said HA HA HA (exaggerated like that too) it's never coming to the playstation..... well it MIGHT, if nintendo buys the playstation.


see, people want nintendo stuff, they just got suckered into the playstation..... it'll all change next generation, count on it....

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by Crono
I also agree with DarkMaster. Nintendo has had their success, time to step down.

They know for a fact that it's the loyal fans that keeps the GCN going. The sales charts clearly show that GCN is falling behind, and the gap will only become wider. And as DarkMaster said, unless Nintendo has something huge (and it would have to be really HUGE) up their sleeve, then they are doomed to failure, nothing would be able to bring GCN back into the # 2 spot. Nintendo is supposed to be the innovator, I haven't seen any innovation. Exactly what Bond told me on AIM: MS has been the innovator this generation, and I agree totally. With a build in Hard Drive and an Ethernet port. Online games are something Nintend should have started already, yet, I see nothing, and I bet we won't see any good online titles. Games like F-Zero, Mario Kart, 1080 Avalance and SSBM would all be good online titles, yet Nintendo doesn't take advantage, because their stubborn, and that will be their downfall.

I'm just a tad curious on this point, ow exactly has Microsoft been innovative this generation. I mean sure they included the hard-drive, but I have not seen many make use of it hus far other than Blinx which seemed to suffer and well Fable whenever it plans on being released. I mean the ability to rip your own music is cool and all but doesn't add anything new. Maybe, I'm missing something on this hard-drive business, I mean it could be used for good, but thus far...

And I don't think online patches is a good either, with most console games, people expect it to be right the first time around.

does Ps2 have ethernet ports?

And this is a big one, everyone talks about online games, everyone seems to think it's the next step for videogames, thus far I've seen it expand multiplayer aspects of games and not much. Really, what is so special about being able to play someone from God-Knows-Where, Australia or elsewhere. I mean it may be cool if you don't have friends around and whatnot, but you could just not play the game.

Maybe someone is willing to point out the great aspect of online gaming, I have never got the big thrill in it nor do I think I ever will.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Crash
it'll all change next generation, count on it....

Errr isn't that kind of what Nintendo fans were saying about this generation? Return to the glory days of SNES, etc? PS2 will die out because of lack of good games and difficulty of development, and NGC will pull ahead?

Also similar to the "Things will turn around when Resident Evil/Eternal Darkness/Super Mario Sunshine/Metroid Prime comes out" dealy?

[bobcat]

Well I agree. If Nintendo did decide to stop making consoles, would the games sell as well on other platforms (e.g. Xbox/Ps2?) I don't think so. Like a Mario game on Ps2 would just feel weird. I don't think marketing would be as appealing as it would on a Nintendo console.

And also this would limit Miyamoto's ideas as he has no say on what the controller will look like, or how powerful the system will be. Making profit is Nintendo's main aim as with any company, and they must be doing so. Why would they pull out? Even if sales aren't amazing, they are still very well in it, and making profit.

[Dyne]

I don't care. I want my Nintendo games.

Like it was said, the day Nintendo leaves the console business, that's the day they leave the video game business. I think they would pull anything out of their asses and succeed. Game Boy console hybrid you can hook up or take on the go? You got it.

They're getting more sales period. It's the rapid fluctuation of all these casual gamers. Take a look at how many sales there were in the last generation compared to this one. There's big differences. PS2 may have all those console sales, but do you really wonder how many are actually getting played?

[Crash]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
Errr isn't that kind of what Nintendo fans were saying about this generation? Return to the glory days of SNES, etc? PS2 will die out because of lack of good games and difficulty of development, and NGC will pull ahead?

Also similar to the "Things will turn around when Resident Evil/Eternal Darkness/Super Mario Sunshine/Metroid Prime comes out" dealy?

that was before nintendo got a new president who before was a guy about 80 years old. now, with iwata, things will be different. they are listening to consumers now....

gameboy advance sp... rechargable battery, backlit screen, and it flips because everyone was always complaining about scratching the screen... you think nintendo won't listen next generation gamecube??? it'll be online, it'll be backward compatable, it'll have a mature zelda...you know it will.

[Crono]

I don't think it matters if a Mario game feels "weird" on another console. Who really cares? And for all you Nintendo fans who only buy their systems... imagine all the other games you guys could be playing, I don't think you even realize what you miss out on.
I'll tell you one thing, it'd be hell of a lot cheaper to only be buying 2 consoles instead of 3. Nintendo is making us all-round gamers go out and buy their damn system for a few games, I don't really feel like doing that again, I cant just be wasting my money for a small handful of good games, I'd rather stick with 1 or 2 next gen consoles.

[TheGame]

heh heh heh

About time I creep into this thread...

First of all, I would like to say that Nintendo going third party would be a better move for ME. We talk about how the company makes more money as a first party, but who gives a damn? If Nintendo stops making consoles, there is one less console to buy, period.

Second of all, I think going third party could kill any developer. I'd much rather Nintendo become a second party.

Now, would it be a smart move for Nintendo? I say yes. Here are my reasons (debate if you dare):

1) Nintendo has faithful fans, but the group of faithfuls have been getting noticably smaller over the generations percentage wise. it went from NES's 100%, to SNES's 50%, to N64's 33%, and now to gamecube's ???%. The fact is, the market is growing, and Nintendo isn't.

2) If Nintendo developed exclusivly for Sony or Microsoft that could help both game quality and the sales of games.

On the game quality end, we'll say Xbox. Xbox is simply better hardware, more features, and more stuff to innovate with. You couldn't name one thing Nintendo could do with GCN that they couldn't do with Xbox as a second party.

On the sales end, Ps2. Imagine how much more effective the GBA-GCN(now Ps2) link up would have been. Pokemon online would also be a bigger possibility, and it would have a VASTLY bigger crowd of gamers to sell it to. I mean, what's more profitable, a game that sells 1 million copies on GCN, or 5 million copies on Ps2?

3) Nintendo would still be able to keep the GBA. The fact is, GBA is the most profit friendly system there is right now. Nintendo probably pays pennies to make it, and sells it for a pretty unreasonable price (especially the GBA:SP)...and people still feed in to it. Like it or not GBA is the reason Nintendo is the most profitable company, not GCN.

4) Partnership before competition strikes. It looks like Sony and MS are/were planning to make a handheld system... By Nintendo joining one or the other, not only will they get support from the company they join, they will also be able to relax even more than they are now in the handheld market.

ok, that's about it.

Personally, I think Nintendo should ride GCN out, then jump ship to Sony or Microsoft. Like Crash pointed out, Nintendo's console is superior... but gaming is coming to a time where graphics just don't matter. Next generation does anybody here really think a console will stand out in visuals? I don't think so.... I think only 2 thinks will seperate the systems. 1) The features the console has and 2) The games the console has.

Even now it's basically at that point. A game ugly as hell like GTA:VC can sell like there's no tomorrow, while visual masterpeices fail.

The thing I hate about Nintendo in comparision to Sony or Microsoft is that they worry WAY too much about profit. When they worry about that too much it in turn hurts the game quality because they aren't willing to go out on a limb with things, like for Example online gaming, or making any notorious changes to sequals(the way I see it, change the bad selling games, and keep the good selling games the same.. Nintendo has done the exact opposite this generation). If Nintendo becomes a second party they could worry about what they are great at... making games.

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by TheGame
heh heh heh

About time I creep into this thread...

Why couldn't they shot you before you crept in?

First of all, I would like to say that Nintendo going third party would be a better move for ME. We talk about how the company makes more money as a first party, but who gives a damn? If Nintendo stops making consoles, there is one less console to buy, period.

Well in that regard wouldn't it be a better move for any other console maker to stop making consoles? And who's to say someone else won't enter the area, I mean thus far we've had Nintendo enter, then Sega (well they had the MasterSystem, but no one really counts than) then Sony and now MicroSoft.

Second of all, I think going third party could kill any developer. I'd much rather Nintendo become a second party.

Well I don't know how exactly going 3rd party could kill a developer, I mean 3D0, Atari and Sega all did it and they don't seem to be dead or the last time I checked.

Now, would it be a smart move for Nintendo? I say yes. Here are my reasons (debate if you dare):

[quote]1) Nintendo has faithful fans, but the group of faithfuls have been getting noticably smaller over the generations percentage wise. it went from NES's 100%, to SNES's 50%, to N64's 33%, and now to gamecube's ???%. The fact is, the market is growing, and Nintendo isn't.[/qiote]

I'm a little baffled at your percentage, are you talking about the percentage of people who owned the console or who are still fans of Nintendo?

You're numbers are rather illogical at best, I mean for one, I believe this will probably be the biggest generation thus far, and if you know math if you have 100% of 10 and 50% of 20, it's still the same damn thing. But maybe, I'm missing the point of those numbers.

2) If Nintendo developed exclusivly for Sony or Microsoft that could help both game quality and the sales of games.

I don't see how working for Microsoft ot Sony will actually improve the quality of the games, I mean if Nintendo is regarded as one of the best developers in the world, how exactly would another team that isn't as well renowed teach them something?

And well, I don't know if that is completely accurate, I mean think about it, PS2/Xbox caters to a different group than Nintendo games. GTA:VC sells millions in no time yet games like Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & clank don't, let Mario and Animal Crossing are able to on the Cube.

On the game quality end, we'll say Xbox. Xbox is simply better hardware, more features, and more stuff to innovate with. You couldn't name one thing Nintendo could do with GCN that they couldn't do with Xbox as a second party.

They couldn't use their controller, the GBA player or the digital click.

I know the Xbox has more power and the best to it, but no one really shows how Xbox hardware makes a game more innovative, I mean take Blinx for example, took some features of the Xbox such as the hard-drive and did it improve the game any? does anyone consider it a top platformer of 2002? the next game that will push the hard-drive seems to be Fable unless their are some in between, but eh.

On the sales end, Ps2. Imagine how much more effective the GBA-GCN(now Ps2) link up would have been. Pokemon online would also be a bigger possibility, and it would have a VASTLY bigger crowd of gamers to sell it to. I mean, what's more profitable, a game that sells 1 million copies on GCN, or 5 million copies on Ps2?

How many games sell 5 million on Ps2? How many games sell 5 million period?

Anyhow, how is releasing another PokeMon increasing quality? And heck we don't even know what the hell the GCN PokeMon is like to make any judgements on if having it on Ps2 would have helped.

3) Nintendo would still be able to keep the GBA. The fact is, GBA is the most profit friendly system there is right now. Nintendo probably pays pennies to make it, and sells it for a pretty unreasonable price (especially the GBA:SP)...and people still feed in to it. Like it or not GBA is the reason Nintendo is the most profitable company, not GCN.

Yes no one would deny that Nintendo makes the most profit because of the GBA, but it's not like the GCN doesn't play a part in it, but it is largely due to the GBA and that is why Nintendo is trying to push it so hard.

4) Partnership before competition strikes. It looks like Sony and MS are/were planning to make a handheld system... By Nintendo joining one or the other, not only will they get support from the company they join, they will also be able to relax even more than they are now in the handheld market.

Well, I think Nintendo has a handle on the handheld market atleast for a few more years

-They are the only ones of the 3 who actually used cartidges before, and CDs aren't too ideal for a handheld console atleast IMO. Well atleast that's what EGM stated.
-Nintendo knows what types of games sell on a handheld. It isn't exactly the same as the console. I mean games like Mario, MegaMan, Sonic and all those others that may "deem" kiddie on the console are much more likely to sell on a console than Driver, GTA 2 or anything else. I mean it's not like they haven't been released to compare.

Personally, I think Nintendo should ride GCN out, then jump ship to Sony or Microsoft. Like Crash pointed out, Nintendo's console is superior... but gaming is coming to a time where graphics just don't matter. Next generation does anybody here really think a console will stand out in visuals? I don't think so.... I think only 2 thinks will seperate the systems. 1) The features the console has and 2) The games the console has.

Why is it that you talk about graphics and Nintendo, I mean if their big games on GCN are any signs, Nintendo doesn't want to push the extreme limits of the console, they want to push the envelope on gameplay. I mean Mario won't win any awards for graphical achievement, Animal Crossing won't be up their for any texturing awards or anything else.

As for the features, well noo one has any idea what Nintendo, Sony or MicroSoft may or may not include in their next console and if some features will even be needed. I mean with all the folks who own a Ps2 or Xbox, is a DVD player really important anymore? Nintendo has made a quite remarkable wireless controller, will wireless controllers be important next-gen?

I do think certain stuff like modems and hard-drives will be important to a console but some other features may or may not.

As for games, it's real hard to judge that now as well. I mean each generation is another fresh start somewhat, so folks can lose support while others can gain support. It's not like any of us are Ms.Cleo are we?

[TheGame]

*cough*

Well in that regard wouldn't it be a better move for any other console maker to stop making consoles? And who's to say someone else won't enter the area, I mean thus far we've had Nintendo enter, then Sega (well they had the MasterSystem, but no one really counts than) then Sony and now MicroSoft.

The reason I wouldn't mind Nintendo stopping is the fact that Nintendo is a great GAME developer... unlike Microsoft or Sony. Nintendo's desire to make profit is taking front seat over thier desire to make great games now-a-days... and it's hurting thier games. So, becoming a 2nd party would make them better.

Well I don't know how exactly going 3rd party could kill a developer, I mean 3D0, Atari and Sega all did it and they don't seem to be dead or the last time I checked.

Has Sega turnd a profit yet? No. They have only failed misserably a beating EA. 3D0 and Atari aren't in Nintendo's leauge as far as quality software.

don't see how working for Microsoft ot Sony will actually improve the quality of the games, I mean if Nintendo is regarded as one of the best developers in the world, how exactly would another team that isn't as well renowed teach them something?

like I said before, NIntendo is more worried about profit now-a-days... if they were worried about thier games half as much as thier system they would be able to flop out WAY more quality WAY faster.

And well, I don't know if that is completely accurate, I mean think about it, PS2/Xbox caters to a different group than Nintendo games. GTA:VC sells millions in no time yet games like Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & clank don't, let Mario and Animal Crossing are able to on the Cube.

Err, if There was No Cube, the people who purchased those games woudln't just drop dead. They would own whatever console thier precious Nintendo games are on and they would buy them just like how they are buying then now. The ONLY difference would be that there would be even more people to sell it too... there is no way possible it would sell less.

They couldn't use their controller, the GBA player or the digital click.

The digital click? LMAO, how many games really utilize that? Xbox's controller has three more buttons than Cube's anyway. Also, if Nintendo worked with MS, they would make an Xbox version of the GBA player.

I know the Xbox has more power and the best to it, but no one really shows how Xbox hardware makes a game more innovative, I mean take Blinx for example, took some features of the Xbox such as the hard-drive and did it improve the game any? does anyone consider it a top platformer of 2002? the next game that will push the hard-drive seems to be Fable unless their are some in between, but eh.

Err... The hard drive gives more room for innovation. That doesn't mean developers are taking advantage of it. Let an innovative developer like Nintendo work with hardware like that... I'm sure they could find more than enouh to work it.

As far as innovation on the home console market? Well, we'll see who's MMORPGs have the most features and the biggest userbases.

How many games sell 5 million on Ps2? How many games sell 5 million period?

Anyhow, how is releasing another PokeMon increasing quality? And heck we don't even know what the hell the GCN PokeMon is like to make any judgements on if having it on Ps2 would have helped.

The point was.. the userbase is bigger.. not that Pokemon would be an awesome game

Well, I think Nintendo has a handle on the handheld market atleast for a few more years

-They are the only ones of the 3 who actually used cartidges before, and CDs aren't too ideal for a handheld console atleast IMO. Well atleast that's what EGM stated.
-Nintendo knows what types of games sell on a handheld. It isn't exactly the same as the console. I mean games like Mario, MegaMan, Sonic and all those others that may "deem" kiddie on the console are much more likely to sell on a console than Driver, GTA 2 or anything else. I mean it's not like they haven't been released to compare

Well, Nintendo has the advantage there... but you could have said the same thing before SNES came out... you could have also said Saturn and N64 would have been dominant before Psx came out... You could have said Nintendo will get second place this generation without a doubt until Xbox came out.

We can't really predict anything. Nintendo has fallen more times (especially in the US) to newcomers than anybody left in the console manufacturing biz.

Why is it that you talk about graphics and Nintendo, I mean if their big games on GCN are any signs, Nintendo doesn't want to push the extreme limits of the console, they want to push the envelope on gameplay. I mean Mario won't win any awards for graphical achievement, Animal Crossing won't be up their for any texturing awards or anything else.

That's because both of the projects were started on N64. Nintendo released those games because of 100% money management.

As for the features, well noo one has any idea what Nintendo, Sony or MicroSoft may or may not include in their next console and if some features will even be needed. I mean with all the folks who own a Ps2 or Xbox, is a DVD player really important anymore? Nintendo has made a quite remarkable wireless controller, will wireless controllers be important next-gen?

Well, if Ps3 is sticking to it's roots and being backward compatible, why not include a DVD player? I mean... some people's only DVD player is thier Ps2, does Sony want everybody to keep thier Ps2 for the DVD playback?

I think a DVD player may or may not be a must... but it is an extra feature that makes the system more valuable, any way you look at it. I can't imagine anybody not buying a Ps3 because it includes a DVD player.... but I can imagine people not buying a GCN because it doesn't include a DVD player.

As for games, it's real hard to judge that now as well. I mean each generation is another fresh start somewhat, so folks can lose support while others can gain support. It's not like any of us are Ms.Cleo are we?

Cubedojo's mom is :-/

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Crono
I don't think it matters if a Mario game feels "weird" on another console. Who really cares? And for all you Nintendo fans who only buy their systems... imagine all the other games you guys could be playing, I don't think you even realize what you miss out on.
I'll tell you one thing, it'd be hell of a lot cheaper to only be buying 2 consoles instead of 3. Nintendo is making us all-round gamers go out and buy their damn system for a few games, I don't really feel like doing that again, I cant just be wasting my money for a small handful of good games, I'd rather stick with 1 or 2 next gen consoles.

Who is to say that Mario will sell even sell as well on another console? It could , but then again it could completely backfire, and I don't think Nintendo would wanna take that risk.

I have more GC games than Xbox games.

[Jason1]

I have to quick comments for TheGame:

you say as for innovation, we will see who has the biggest userbase for their MMORPG. Somebody tell me when MMORPG's became the definition of innovation?


Also, you say the quality of Nintendo's games has suffered. Do you read any magazine's reviews, especially unbaised ones like EGM? You cant read reviews for games like Prime, Wind Waker, Sunshine, ect, and tell me their games have suffered. The simple fact is that they havent lost a step in game development. What they have lost is userbase.

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by TheGame
*cough*

Are you sick? Try some home made chicken soup.

The reason I wouldn't mind Nintendo stopping is the fact that Nintendo is a great GAME developer... unlike Microsoft or Sony. Nintendo's desire to make profit is taking front seat over thier desire to make great games now-a-days... and it's hurting thier games. So, becoming a 2nd party would make them better.

Ok, I won't go into anything with the quality of nintendo games versus MicroSoft's or sony's because U'm sure I will piss some folks off, but I see where you're coming from with that, but I don't see how making a profit is hurting their games, maybe I'm missing something here.

Has Sega turnd a profit yet? No. They have only failed misserably a beating EA. 3D0 and Atari aren't in Nintendo's leauge as far as quality software.

While, it is true Sega hasn't turned a profit, it really doesn't count since they were losing money before they went 3rd party, if it helps any, they are atleast not going more into debt. And I'm sure it will take some time for them to go above the red again.

like I said before, NIntendo is more worried about profit now-a-days... if they were worried about thier games half as much as thier system they would be able to flop out WAY more quality WAY faster.

Well, I don't think it's far to talk about Nintendo being out for a profit. Nintendo is a game maker and nothing else. Sony and Microsoft has other divisions that could help stomach any loss they made, Nintendo doesn't, they make their money only in the game market so it is important for them to make a profit.

I don't get the last statement, maybe you will rephrase it later.

Err, if There was No Cube, the people who purchased those games woudln't just drop dead. They would own whatever console thier precious Nintendo games are on and they would buy them just like how they are buying then now. The ONLY difference would be that there would be even more people to sell it too... there is no way possible it would sell less.

Well in a way, nintendo could end up dividing it's fanbase, I mean if PS3 would get Mario and xbox 2 get Zelda, I see some Nintendo fans getting pissed at it and not buying either. I mean you can say something that may happen, I could say something that might happen, the simple fact is no one knows for sure. you may say Nintendo fans are loyal, but that was when they could get all the games at one place when they are spread out, it could help or it could hurt. No one knows for sure.

The digital click? LMAO, how many games really utilize that? Xbox's controller has three more buttons than Cube's anyway. Also, if Nintendo worked with MS, they would make an Xbox version of the GBA player.

Well, it is true not many games use the "digital click" and as a whole I do find them pretty useless, but hey maybe Nintendo has something special with it, I doubt it.

O o, I know one game that was done on the Cube that would be a bitch on the Xbox, Animal Crossing, I'm sorry for such a powerful system, why the hell can't it keep time when it's plugged out?

Well, just because it has more buttons doesn't mean it's needed, and what three buttons? The black and white buttons as well as the back button? If you count the "z" button, that would be two more unless I missed a button on my Xbox.

Err... The hard drive gives more room for innovation. That doesn't mean developers are taking advantage of it. Let an innovative developer like Nintendo work with hardware like that... I'm sure they could find more than enouh to work it.

Well, I'm sure their are some features that the hard-drive opens up that wasn't done before, but I'm just not seeing it now. Maybe, Nintendo could work miracles with it, maybe they can't, but who's to say that Nintendo's next console wouldn't have a hard-drive?

[quote][/b]As far as innovation on the home console market? Well, we'll see who's MMORPGs have the most features and the biggest userbases.
Ok how exactly is a MMORPg anything new? I mean it may be the first time it's done on a console, but it's nothing breatakingly new, but maybe that's just me.

The point was.. the userbase is bigger.. not that Pokemon would be an awesome game

the next time you roll your eyes at me, well let's say you don't want to know what I'm gonna do.

Anyhow you say it's a bigger userbase, but how many Ps2ers would care for a PokeMon game, I mean it's not exactly in the audience's big interest is it?

There are many variables that are unpredictable just because something seems so clear cut doesn't mean it is.

Well, Nintendo has the advantage there... but you could have said the same thing before SNES came out... you could have also said Saturn and N64 would have been dominant before Psx came out... You could have said Nintendo will get second place this generation without a doubt until Xbox came out.

You have a point on that, the only difference is the GBA is out already, the Saturn did beat the PSX to the market, but the n64 didn't. The GBA has a loyal fanbase and much like the Ps2 at the moment, the competitors can try and catch up but it's highly unlikely especially with the SP coming out soon.

We can't really predict anything. Nintendo has fallen more times (especially in the US) to newcomers than anybody left in the console manufacturing biz.

that isn't too fair, I mean Nintendo has had more chances to fail then anyone else, and the fact that they continue to slip and remain profitability shows they either know how to squeeze a penny or aren't slipping too much.

[/b]That's because both of the projects were started on N64. Nintendo released those games because of 100% money management.[/b]

Well no one has any proof that Mario Sunshine was started on the n64, many have speculated it was the rumored Super Mario II 2, but no one can be 100% but Nintendo.

As for Animal Crossing, I think it was released (atleast in Japan) to fill in their line-up since they already had the game finished and not many folks got to experience it in Japan due to it's late release. I have no idea why it was released in NA, I mean I highly doubt that it was for money because Nintendo should know that a game with such outdated graphics, a kiddish look and well no real purpose wouldn't have sold too hot (even if it did), I think it was more or less a taste game.

Well, if Ps3 is sticking to it's roots and being backward compatible, why not include a DVD player? I mean... some people's only DVD player is thier Ps2, does Sony want everybody to keep thier Ps2 for the DVD playback?

I'm not saying Sony will not or shouldn't keep a DVD player in the next PlayStation, I'm just saying that it wouldn't be as important of a feature much like the CD player, I mean how many folks talk about that?

I think a DVD player may or may not be a must... but it is an extra feature that makes the system more valuable, any way you look at it. I can't imagine anybody not buying a Ps3 because it includes a DVD player.... but I can imagine people not buying a GCN because it doesn't include a DVD player.

I see what you mean here, and I agree with you on that much, it's better to have than it is not too, but I just don't think it's a must unless everyone else is doing it.

Cubedojo's mom is :-/

Well, I wonder how he feels about her recent legal troubles.

i dont think they have enough popular games if only they had more better games they would not have to think off somthing like this i really dont care what they do i dont like any of the games on gamecube except zelda OoT materquest thats it

[Jonbo298]

yeesh, lets see if I can bring anything POSITIVE about Nintendo. Nintendo is one company that tries new things regardless if they will succeed or not. There have been a few failures like the 64DD and the Virtual Boy, but some have succeeded. Some companies take some of Nintendo's ideas and use them. ie: Rumble feature. I dont see Nintendo leaving any time soon. Because if they said that they are going to develop for both Sony and M$, I would be pissed off. I dont want to buy 2 consoles for $300(that my likely cost of the next-gen consoles). Thats $600 right there! Plus, there are games and other things! I would rather spend and get one console where I know I am getting GOOD games. Not 75% ****ty games and maybe 25% getting decent scores. argh, I've run out of things to say