January Hardware/Software Sales (U.S.)

[tarakan69]

Originally posted by Jason1
Couldnt agree more...Sega r00xors! If there was a good reason for me buying an Xbox, it would be sega's suppourt without a doubt. Panzer Dragon Orta looks hella fun! And Sega's development teams are only surpassed by Nintendo themselves.

I comeplety agree... Sega is what makes the X-Box worth ANYTHING. Everybody's beloved Halo is really a cocksucker that has monotneous levels, something like a pathetic choice of 6 weapons, and can't be played for more than 15 hours anyway. You pass the game once and that's it... not to mention I nearly died from boredrom when I got into those repeating level such as the Labriry.

Although my passionate love for JSRF, Shenmue 2, and prospects of other Sega games were overpowered me and I got an X-Box.

[TheGame]

lmao.. that was pretty blind and biased.... it's almost like saying Nintendo's support is the only thing that makes GCN worth "ANYTHING". But I'm sure a sane person can see some other games too.

[tarakan69]

Originally posted by TheGame
lmao.. that was pretty blind and biased.... it's almost like saying Nintendo's support is the only thing that makes GCN worth "ANYTHING". But I'm sure a sane person can see some other games too.

Justin the only games that I have TOUCHED on the X-Box are Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue 2, Jet Set Radio. Halo was my biggest dissappointment...

Let's not forget I have a cracked Xbox and can buy games for 12 Euros (10.5 dollars). So it just show that the console has no note worth exlcusives that SELL... nevermind Splinter Cell... It's was tedious and the LAME story was too much. I got to the Oil Rig and couldn't stand it anymore.

But let's not forget these are "my" gamig preferences... I'm not the type of gamer that buys a Madden/Fifa game every year. So the endless list of racing games on the X-Box doesn't really cut it for me... Not to mention that NON of them actually even touch Granm Turismo 3 in depth gameplay, production values, and god knows whatelse.

[TheGame]

Here is just a list of non-sega and non-Gamecube Xbox titles(well, as of 2-25-03):
-Halo
-Splinter Cell
-Dead or Alive 3
-Elder Scrolls 3:Morrowwind
-Deathrow
-Mech Assault
-Rallispot Challenge
-Unreal Championship
-WWF Raw
-GUNVALKYRIE
-Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
-World Series Baseball
-Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions
-Max Payne
-Blinx
-Moto GP
-Project Gotham Racing
-NBA Inside Drive
-Capcom vs SNK 2:EO
-Ampped Freestyle Snowboarding
-Baulder's Gate
-Dead to Rights
-Dr Muto
-NASCAR Thunder
and more...

I think that's more than enough if pretty much any genre to satisfy an Xbox owner.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by tarakan69
Justin the only games that I have TOUCHED on the X-Box are Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue 2, Jet Set Radio. Halo was my biggest dissappointment...

Let's not forget I have a cracked Xbox and can buy games for 12 Euros (10.5 dollars). So it just show that the console has no note worth exlcusives that SELL... nevermind Splinter Cell... It's was tedious and the LAME story was too much. I got to the Oil Rig and couldn't stand it anymore.

But let's not forget these are "my" gamig preferences... I'm not the type of gamer that buys a Madden/Fifa game every year. So the endless list of racing games on the X-Box doesn't really cut it for me... Not to mention that NON of them actually even touch Granm Turismo 3 in depth gameplay, production values, and god knows whatelse.

Well you have no room to speak then...

I'm talking from the perspective of a guy who likes any genre of game... and Xbox and Ps2 can satisfy in pretty much every area. The sad truth is, GCN can't.

I mean lets look at the main genres:
Sports
Racing
Fighting
RPG
Action/Adventure
First Person Shooter
Real time

err... Xbox has more categories coverd than GCN... and more subtitles of categories coverd than GCN. That's not ONLY because of Sega either!

As for the future? Don't make me laugh... while GCN is only losing support by the day, Xbox is gaining support. When is the last time you saw a developer say they are dropping support for Xbox? When is the last time you heard of a developer dropping support for GCN? Nuff said.

[tarakan69]

Originally posted by TheGame

err... Xbox has more categories coverd than GCN... and more subtitles of categories coverd than GCN. That's not ONLY because of Sega either!

As for the future? Don't make me laugh... while GCN is only losing support by the day, Xbox is gaining support. When is the last time you saw a developer say they are dropping support for Xbox? When is the last time you heard of a developer dropping support for GCN? Nuff said.

I don't get how the GCN even comes into play here... I don't even own a GCN cause I don't like Nitnedo's First party games.

Nowto analyze "list" of games.... It's just an opinion so there it goes.

-Halo (It was fun the first time through... multiplayer was good... still a rushed effort)

-Splinter Cell (all consoles... I still say it a BAD game.)

-Dead or Alive 3 (please... this buttuon masher against Virtual Fighter 4??)

-Elder Scrolls 3:Morrowwind (I own it for PC and X-Box... my PC with a Geforce 256 plays it better than my X-Box... sad... well aside for the pixel shading effects)

-Deathrow (herad it's good)

-Mech Assault (dumbed down version of MEchwarrior 4 where you just press shoot and that's it... not configuration of mech or anything)

-Rallispot Challenge (good game... WRC*World Rally Championship) is better. It's the gran Turismo of Rally games.

-Unreal Championship (gets boring in 5 hours of play... just get a damn PC to enjoy to enjoy it properly)

-WWF Raw(Saw it... bad animation, terrible gameplay)

-GUNVALKYRIE(never played it)

-Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (okay okay I give you this one... but MGS2 was avliable a long time ago on PS2. Also PS2 version
will feature skateboarding)\

-World Series Baseball (sport game... give me a break)\

-Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions (on all consoles... trash anyways)

-Max Payne (on PC a year before PS2 and X-Box)

-Blinx (own this this game... it extremely lame after world 4, no fun factor whatso ever)

-Moto GP (on all consoles)

-Project Gotham Racing (UHHMM I OWN THIS GAME... frustrating as hell)

-NBA Inside Drive (Countless updated trash sport game)

-Capcom vs SNK 2:EO(Not really a fan of 2D games... on other consoles)

-Ampped Freestyle Snowboarding (SSX Tricky is better but "okay" game"

-Baulder's Gate (On all 3 console PS2 got it a year before)

-Dead to Rights(on all consoles)

-Dr Muto(umm... okay)

-NASCAR Thunder (lame)

Only problem I find is that more than half of those aren't even exclusives.

[TheGame]

Hmm... you don't own a cube? Oh well.

Well whatever, I guess we just simly disagree... I think Sega isn't a bigger factor in Xbox's quality than it is in GCN's or Ps2's quality.

I'm also a huge fan of sports games, so meh.

[DeathsHand]

I don't really like Sega all that much, but I want an Xbox... *shrugs* Only Sega game I can think of that I really want on the system is Shenmue 2... And I thought the first one was kind of meh, not as good as people made it out to be, but good enough that 2 would be worth a rent or something maybe...

So you see Tarakan and TheGame... There are things in this world that are called opinions, and when they seem to conflict as much as yours appear to, hows about you agree to disagree? NOW KISS AND MAKE UP!

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
NOW KISS AND MAKE UP!

you'd like to see THAT, wouldn't you DH?


YOU SICK BASTARD!!!!!

*hoards of GT members hold Stu back*






jk ..........or am I?

[The Germanator]

I sorta want an Xbox, but I also have too many unplayed games on GC and PS2 right now...The only things that may force me to get an Xbox are if they make Shenmue 3 (I played #2 on DC, European version), Project Ego (or Fable, whatever it's called now), and I still wanna play the new ToeJam and Earl game. Maybe some day.

[Jonbo298]

Don't waste your time on TJ & E III. I only played a demo and I thought the game was stupid as hell. The move cutscenes are pretty funny, but after that, it gets really dumb and has no point. But on the subject of Quality. I think each console has its own shine. PS2 people gloat about the user base and having the most games. NGC people gloat about all the quality games from Nintendo that most people never get the chance to play because (in a whiny girl voice) "They are too kiddy". And XBox people gloat about Power. So every console has something to back it, but most Americans think Power is better then Quality. (That wasn't meant as a put down to XBox owners). But this is what America is coming to, we want our gas slogging cars/trucks/SUV's and don't give a damn about out future and they think that new fuels (ie: Water, Air, etc...) are "too slow" for the consumer. Meaning **** the atmosphere, I want to drive fast and kill other people while killing billions more in the future.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by Jonbo298
Don't waste your time on TJ & E III. I only played a demo and I thought the game was stupid as hell. The move cutscenes are pretty funny, but after that, it gets really dumb and has no point. But on the subject of Quality. I think each console has its own shine. PS2 people gloat about the user base and having the most games. NGC people gloat about all the quality games from Nintendo that most people never get the chance to play because (in a whiny girl voice) "They are too kiddy". And XBox people gloat about Power. So every console has something to back it, but most Americans think Power is better then Quality. (That wasn't meant as a put down to XBox owners). But this is what America is coming to, we want our gas slogging cars/trucks/SUV's and don't give a damn about out future and they think that new fuels (ie: Water, Air, etc...) are "too slow" for the consumer. Meaning **** the atmosphere, I want to drive fast and kill other people while killing billions more in the future.

uh...a little disgruntled, Jonbo?

[Joeiss]

Originally posted by Jonbo298
NGC people gloat about all the quality games from Nintendo that most people never get the chance to play because (in a whiny girl voice) "They are too kiddy".

My hardcore Nintendo friend thought the following games sucked, or did not live up to their potential at ALL : Luigi's Mansion, Animal Forest (is that the right name? it doesnt sound right) and Mario Sunshine.... Not much quality there, according to him.

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by Joeiss
My hardcore Nintendo friend thought the following games sucked, or did not live up to their potential at ALL : Luigi's Mansion, Animal Forest (is that the right name? it doesnt sound right) and Mario Sunshine.... Not much quality there, according to him.

Well, first off the game is Animal Crossing.

As for the list, I can understand with Luigi's Manion, it was a fun game, but it was too easy, too short and well just lacking something special so I can see what he means.

Animal Crossing is either a love or hate game in my book. I mean some people may be put off by the fact there is no true ending, the graphics are rather outdated and blocky, the typing is a b!tch and well the game doesn't have much action, for all it's faults, it's still a pretty neat game.

I think the problem from Mario stems more from expectations than anything else. I mean sure Mario Sunshine had it's fault such as the camera, the so-so graphics and well the short number of levels. But I think the thing that hate the game the most was the lack of variety, a lack of variety in the level design (some could say Nintendo was brave in not sticking to the conventional level design of fire,ice, water and whatever else) but the uniform theme made it hard for any level to be too different from any other. A lack of variety in the goals, I mean each level had atleast one "secret" area, one 100 gold coings search, 8 red coins search, boss battle and the Water Mario chase. After a while it starts to wear thin, but I think it was a fun game, just not too much variety for the long haul or any real reason to complete it then to find your ego. By complete, I mean get 120 Shines.

[Crono]

Not only that, but if you put added the FLUDD in SM64, you could basically call it Super Mario Sunshine. Seriously, the layout of things was EXACTLY the same. 120 shines (wow, same number of SM64's Stars), 100 coins to get a shine (and a star in SM64), and whenever you entered a level you had to pick the event you wanted (again, exactly like SM64). Reminds me of Majora's Mask. When practically every character was from OoT (but then again, wasnt Termina like a parallel dimension or something?). Nintendo should have put more thought into SMS. Don't even get me started on how crappy Luigi's Mansion was. Anyway, what I should say is, Joeiss' friend was right IMO. Games like SF and SMS that were supposed to be big hitters turned out to be crappy, while IMO, AC on the other hand was good. MP was alright, but not like super ultra amazing good.

If Wind Waker disappoints, I will lose all faith in Nintendo. I hope to God that "Mario 128" or "AC2" dont come out this year, or else they will be crappy rushed sequels.