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Old 01-29-2003, 09:58 AM   #16
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You shouldn't blame me. Simply follow the below bullets:-

* Firstly you should blame Microsoft for their console design and giving hackers the most obvious form of rorting the XBox (a hard drive and PC built architecture).

* Secondly you should blame the hackers themselves for coming up with this idea. A console that was just screaming out "hack me" for hackers

* Thirdly you should blame the government for the high prices of modern living in this day and age (well in Sydney anyway)

* Fourthly my boss. He needs to give me a payrise

* Then finally blame me, for being a person who wishes to save thousands of dollars at the expense of Microsoft and games developers who are a billion times richer than me.

Oh and I have tiles. It gets too hot in the summer for carpet.
Everything I just read is bullsh*t.

Microsoft and game developers owe you nothing. Why should you steal from them?

If you can't afford gaming, don't buy a system.
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Old 01-29-2003, 10:18 AM   #17
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Everything I just read is bullsh*t.

Microsoft and game developers owe you nothing. Why should you steal from them?

If you can't afford gaming, don't buy a system.
Stu...shut up, just cause your family is rich or you can afford anything doesn't mean that everyone around is the same, i would much rather save up for a car then spend money on games, when i know i can get them for free. hell, you'd probably do the same if each game costed $500...so don't go around blaming people for being cheap, cause it's the games that are expensive.


and Bobcat...PM me with the details please.
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Old 01-29-2003, 12:51 PM   #18
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Stu...shut up, just cause your family is rich or you can afford anything doesn't mean that everyone around is the same, i would much rather save up for a car then spend money on games, when i know i can get them for free. hell, you'd probably do the same if each game costed $500...so don't go around blaming people for being cheap, cause it's the games that are expensive.


and Bobcat...PM me with the details please.
LOL. My family is not rich. We're middle class. But I earned a good deal of money last year and can afford a handful of games this year. Developers put a lot of work into their games...they earn money and a living just like anyone else.

I guess you're saying that if you don't have the money, and you have the optorunity to steal, it's okay?

I figured hardcore gamers respected the hard work people put into their games...obviously you guys just wanna milk their efforts.

If you don't have the money to buy something (especially a luxury
like gaming) then you miss out. Get a job and earn some money if you want luxuries

oh, and one more thing

"so don't go around blaming people for being cheap, cause it's the games that are expensive"

that made no sense. not only are you cheap, but apparently you're of fairly low intelligence.
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Old 01-29-2003, 01:21 PM   #19
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Big deal... my X-Box is chipped.

I buy games for 12 Euros... copies.

PS2... I buy only originals... why you may ask?? I don't want to support Microsoft but couldn't miss out Panzer Dragoon: Orta and JSRF.

Also bobcat it cost 120 euros for my chip... and the copies cost 12 Euros. Plus I can get USA and Jap X-Box games befoer they ever hit retail here in Europe.
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Old 01-29-2003, 01:27 PM   #20
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I work and live by myself. I make $32,000, which ould make me LOW middle class, if even that, and I can't STAND hackers and people who mod their consoles for free games. You are scum. You care nothing for the gaming industry that supplies you with so much.

Do you think you're only cheating MS? WRONG. MS is losing money now. You're hurting every small house developer on the market. Small houses drive the advances and originality in his industry. The problem is, if their first titles don't do well, their investors pull out and the company DIES. If pirating games becomes a common occurance on the XBox, you could easily see a house like Big Blue Box, whon are developing Fable, go under. Good for you.

As for it being MSs FAULT that people want to hack their console, ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME??? IS IT A LIQUOR STORE'S FAULT THAT THEY GET ROBBED??? ITS THE SAME THING!!!

If you want to get more games than what you mommy and daddy will buy you, GET A JOB LIKE A RESPONSIBLE HUMAN BEING. There is no excuse.

bobcat, I'm shocked by your stance on this. You should be ashamed of youself considering your standing in these forums. Poor show.
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Old 01-29-2003, 01:34 PM   #21
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I am getting a job starting May. Then I will buy games with my own money. Up until now, I have been living off brithday and Christmas money, lol.
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Old 01-29-2003, 01:58 PM   #22
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bobcat, I'm shocked by your stance on this. You should be ashamed of youself considering your standing in these forums. Poor show.
Go Captian America!!
Anyway get real... 32,000?? Low end?? That's for Ameica... Middle class in Europe is 20,000- 25,000 euros per year.

Also I really like the fact that I get my piracy copy when the game comes out in Japan...(the day it comes out in Japan) and get my piracy copy of USA games (because you need to understand some of your games) like 3-4 months they are officialy released. here

I had what over 60 dreamcast games... 20+ X-Box games. and umm 12 PS2 games (all original)

There, sue me

EDIT: Got over 150+ PC games... copies of course... not to mention over 200 music CDs.
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Old 01-29-2003, 03:20 PM   #23
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Go Captian America!!
Anyway get real... 32,000?? Low end?? That's for Ameica... Middle class in Europe is 20,000- 25,000 euros per year.

Also I really like the fact that I get my piracy copy when the game comes out in Japan...(the day it comes out in Japan) and get my piracy copy of USA games (because you need to understand some of your games) like 3-4 months they are officialy released. here

I had what over 60 dreamcast games... 20+ X-Box games. and umm 12 PS2 games (all original)

There, sue me

EDIT: Got over 150+ PC games... copies of course... not to mention over 200 music CDs.
damn man...i understand not having alot of money for games...but even i wouldn't have all that...stu had a good point, if you don't have enough mony for games, stealing is still wrong...i mean, it's ok to get 1-5 (IMO) but 20?!...


and strangler...$32,000 for a person living by himself is a sh*tload of money...
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Old 01-29-2003, 04:04 PM   #24
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I always knew bobcat was cheap...

but this cheap? Wow, that's pathetic.
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Old 01-29-2003, 04:49 PM   #25
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and strangler...$32,000 for a person living by himself is a sh*tload of money...
It is okay.... But rent, bills, tax, car, gas, food, g/f (maybe), beer, weed.... it gets expensive.
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Old 01-29-2003, 06:22 PM   #26
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Everything you read is bullsh!t? C'mon

BTW I have all 3 consoles, so I can afford gaming. I can afford to buy $100 games. But why would I do that when I have the opportunity to get games for free? I know of a few people who've done it.

Seriously. With the money I save from this, I can do a lot of other things.

I consider this a saving. If you wish to spend money on these games even if you don't have to, by all means go ahead.

I'm sure Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo really care for consumers. They don't give a sh!t about you guys, they don't care if you enjoy your games, they just want your money. You guys are acting as if games/console companies really care for consumers.

I bought a Psx for $700 AUST, I bought a Ps2 for $750 AUST, I bought a Saturn for $800 AUST. I think it's about time I reap some benefits from these multi million/billion dollar companies.
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Old 01-29-2003, 06:25 PM   #27
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Old 01-29-2003, 06:25 PM   #28
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well hell.

with the money i could save from going out and stealing someones car... i coudl do a ton of stuff.!!! hey, good thing i have LOGICAL reasoning to justify stupid actions. =D


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Old 01-29-2003, 06:29 PM   #29
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I always knew bobcat was cheap...

but this cheap? Wow, that's pathetic.
Can I ask a question?

How did you know I was always cheap?
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Old 01-29-2003, 07:06 PM   #30
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I work and live by myself. I make $32,000, which ould make me LOW middle class, if even that, and I can't STAND hackers and people who mod their consoles for free games. You are scum. You care nothing for the gaming industry that supplies you with so much.



I'm not a hacker. Gaming industry don't give a stuff about us. They supply me with what they make their money off........games. That don't make them "saints". It's their job. They get payed to do so. Times are changing.

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Do you think you're only cheating MS? WRONG. MS is losing money now. You're hurting every small house developer on the market. Small houses drive the advances and originality in his industry. The problem is, if their first titles don't do well, their investors pull out and the company DIES. If pirating games becomes a common occurance on the XBox, you could easily see a house like Big Blue Box, whon are developing Fable, go under. Good for you.



I understand that small house developers get hurt. But it's either them or me. If I can get away with getting free games, then I think it's worth it.

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As for it being MSs FAULT that people want to hack their console, ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME??? IS IT A LIQUOR STORE'S FAULT THAT THEY GET ROBBED??? ITS THE SAME THING!!!


Didn't say that. Basically I said that the Xbox is the console out of all next gen consoles that is most prone to hacking. Maybe they should've invested less money into marketing and more into anti-piracy. If MS truly believed that hackers were going to be a problem, then they would have obviously put more money into anti piracy for the Xbox (maybe even ditching the Hard Drive). But they chose not to.

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If you want to get more games than what you mommy and daddy will buy you, GET A JOB LIKE A RESPONSIBLE HUMAN BEING. There is no excuse.


I should get a job..................I already have a job. But if I can get free games, even if it's at the expense of small house gaming companies, then so be it. They don't care about me, why should I care about them?

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bobcat, I'm shocked by your stance on this. You should be ashamed of youself considering your standing in these forums. Poor show.
You are entitled to your opinion. As I am mine. I still think it's high time I got some free stuff for all the money I've contributed to gaming. For all the small house developers I have helped through the tough times. For contributing +1 to the sales of the GC, Ps2, Xbox, NES, SNES, Megadrive, SMS, Neo Geo, Neo Geo CD, GBA, GB, GB Color, C64, Amiga, Amstrad, Mega CD and the hundreds of games I've purchased. What incentives have I got as a result of ALL my purchases?? NONE! I payed for what I got, and that's basically it.

Don't give me this "how can you do such a thing. They give you years of entertainment and you just steal from them". That is a load of crap (especially in this day and age). It's their job. They get PAYED to do it.

Just to get the record straight I haven't modded my Xbox, but I don't see what the problem is in me doing so. Especially after all I've contributed to the gaming industry ever since I was a youngsta. And I can't take responsibility for other people's actions, so don't give me this "what if everyone started modding their Xboxes" crap.

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