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Old 12-03-2002, 11:43 PM   #16
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im sorry, but Mac mice are another reason im not buying a mac right now.

they may look pretty, they're just not as pratical as other mice. They still have only 1 button? or have they 2 now?

scrool bar?


bunch of other buttons?


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oh yea. i can use my logitech mice on macs.


All is well then.
Scroll bar: Can people be any lazier?
Bunch of other Buttons: Why?

Mac mice don't have any buttons. The whole mouse is one large button I guess. You just click anywhere on the mouse.
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Old 12-04-2002, 02:51 AM   #17
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a liittle off topic but i just had to ask.....logitech optical usb mouse works with PS2 right, I've heard they were a good choice to use if you were to use a mouse with the PS2.
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Old 12-04-2002, 08:56 AM   #18
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Scroll bar: Can people be any lazier?
Bunch of other Buttons: Why?

Mac mice don't have any buttons. The whole mouse is one large button I guess. You just click anywhere on the mouse.

weak case in trying to defend a innovationless, optionless boring mouse.

yea, lets take away the things that make life easier. i mean why would we want a scroll where we can sift thro long documents easily, why would we want the extra buttons.

oh wait. heres a pertty good reason....

GAMES.

mac mouse for games... SUCKS. plain and simple.

other mouse.

left click = FIRE
right click = jump
scroll = sift thro weapons
other buttons = alt fire, zoom, crouch, many other things that make games easier.
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:59 PM   #19
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Thanks for the heads up. Just out of curiosity though... If you've played Counter Strike before, how well does the mouse work with the game?
I play CS all the time at my school. We have a club that is dedicated to gaming and CS is the most popular game on campus so I play it quite frequently. I used to play with my stock two button plus scroll gateway mouse. It was a ball mouse and I had to keep cleaning it. I bought an MS optical mouse, the four button plus scroll variety and have never been happier. I noticed an immediate improvement and NO CLEANING!
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Old 12-04-2002, 05:50 PM   #20
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I play CS all the time at my school. We have a club that is dedicated to gaming and CS is the most popular game on campus so I play it quite frequently. I used to play with my stock two button plus scroll gateway mouse. It was a ball mouse and I had to keep cleaning it. I bought an MS optical mouse, the four button plus scroll variety and have never been happier. I noticed an immediate improvement and NO CLEANING!
That's great. I guess I should either go with Microsoft or Logitech for mice right?
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Old 12-04-2002, 05:53 PM   #21
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That's great. I guess I should either go with Microsoft or Logitech for mice right?
I would go with a Microsoft laser mouse. I've had one for 2 years now and it is simply the best mouse I have ever used.

Here is a handy little guide that will help you find the best mouse for you (assuming you get a MS one):

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse/guide.asp

Here is the one I own:

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse/ie_info.asp

It's pretty much like that, only difference is that mine is an earlier version and a tad smaller.
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Old 12-04-2002, 06:31 PM   #22
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That's great. I guess I should either go with Microsoft or Logitech for mice right?
yes, thoes are the 2 tops.

i say Logitech is the best tho.

i find they have MUCH MUCH MUCH easier and better driver support for thier mice.

i've never had anything go wrong with any of my logitech mice.
i mean i bought a $15 cheap logitech optical mouse a while back, for work. and its been beat on, tossed around, droped on the floor, its almost black with dirt, it was white when it was new.

and it still runs like a champ.


Basically i suggest you go out and find the one thats most comfortable for you, goto some stores, look around.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?pa...9&languageid=1
Thats the mouse i have right now. Duel Optical. has 2 lasers. hehe.

and for christmas im going to step up to...
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?pa...9&languageid=1
dats my mx500 *drools* dat baby is loaded with buttons. 2 thumb, 2 finger, scroll, and 1 above, 2 below the scroll.
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Old 12-04-2002, 07:25 PM   #23
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http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse/imo_info.asp

That's mine. Picked it up for around $20 on-sale. They can be found pretty cheap since they are an older model, but they have five buttons, are dead accurate, and as far as I can tell, not much different than the more expensive ones.
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Old 12-04-2002, 08:46 PM   #24
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i mean why would we want a scroll where we can sift thro long documents easily...
Thats what the page up and down keys on your keyboard are for...

For games, yes, a Mac mouse would not be very good. Doesn't really matter when the computer isn't good for games either though...

But for general computer use their top notch.
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:10 PM   #25
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Again, thank you Bond, Null and Jeepnut.

There's just so many :eek:.

I'll make my mind up pretty soon though. I gather you wont need a mouse mat for optical mice? What a relief!
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:28 PM   #26
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Thats what the page up and down keys on your keyboard are for...

For games, yes, a Mac mouse would not be very good. Doesn't really matter when the computer isn't good for games either though...

But for general computer use their top notch.

oh yes, lets take our hands off the mouse, to use page up and page down, when we could do it much easier and faster witht he mouse curse things that make life easier. damn them to hell. (specially when going thro a doc, highlighting, moving stuff, editing it)

hell man, why even use a mouse at all? everything can be done thro the keyboard. you just lazy for wanting to use a mouse to click. you should be using the keyboard.


a mac mouse looks pretty. period. thats about it. it has 1 function, click.
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:31 PM   #27
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I'll make my mind up pretty soon though. I gather you wont need a mouse mat for optical mice? What a relief!
You don't 'need' one, but I prefer them with a mat.
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:54 PM   #28
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hehe, honestly im not tryin to disagree with everything bond says....

but i hate mouse pads., they tend to limit the movement, without a mouse pad i can move the mouse farther along the desk without it falling off the edge of the pad or having to pick it up and put it down in the middle again.
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Old 12-04-2002, 10:04 PM   #29
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a mac mouse looks pretty. period. thats about it. it has 1 function, click.
Isn't it ironic? A mouse that serves it's intended purpose...

Anyway...

ShadowLink, you may need a mousepad depending on the surface of your desk or where ever your computer is planted. Is it a glossy surface? Is it one general color or are there distinct differences?

If it's glossy or something, the mouse may have trouble tracking because the laser could reflect. Also, if surface is all one color, like pure white or something, the mouse could have trouble distinguishing it's location.
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Old 12-04-2002, 10:15 PM   #30
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A mouse that serves it's intended purpose...
ah, we finally agree on something.
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