12-04-2002, 04:44 PM
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All in all, they could possibly release an easier to develop for console, with better graphics, games, and a completed online gaming service before Sony even comes to North America!
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i dont understand why u think that they could possibly develop a system with better graphics games and online gaming service better than the others. every other company has as just a good chance dont they?
btw, nice read justin, thanks
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12-05-2002, 12:34 PM
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The Greatest One
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i dont understand why u think that they could possibly develop a system with better graphics games and online gaming service better than the others. every other company has as just a good chance dont they?
btw, nice read justin, thanks
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I'm not saying they will make a better system than Sony... but if they release it in america at the same time Sony releases Ps2 in Japan there is a good possibility that even with an earlier release it could have better hardware than Sony's in every way.
We can't jump to the conclusion that an earlier release means a weaker system. Think about Psx and Saturn. Sega had to push the launch date WAY back to compete with Sony because not only did Psx have a lower price point, it had better graphics.
Two consoles released at the same time have equal opprotunity. But it depends on the reigon it's released in too! Imagine if Xbox 2 and Ps3 were exactly the same (power wise)... except:
Ps3
NA Launch: 10-26-06
Japan Launch: 10-26-05
Xbox 2
NA Launch: 11-15-05
Japan Launch: 11-15-06
In Japan Ps3 would be just as powerful but released a year before, in US Xbox2 would be just as powerful and released a year before. Thus making it possible for a console to be released earlier and still be equal/more powerful.
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But if this were to happen, methinks Xbox's chances in Japan would be very slim depending on what Nintendo does. But, Microsoft would have a above average chance of smashing Sony in the US. For some reason, I see the next generation for Microsoft (because of the US base) being a worldwide release.
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12-05-2002, 03:14 PM
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Knight
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For some reason, I see the next generation for Microsoft (because of the US base) being a worldwide release.
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I doubt it. They wanted a worldwide release this generation. The reality is its too hard to pull off. For one that's way too many consoles to manufacture in a short period. And the launch lineups would also suffer. Most games don't get done in time for launch, now you expect them to be done it time, and translated and made for multiple regions? Not a chance.
I have a feeling MS will promise a worldwide release. But they won't deliver. I think they'll go with Japan first, because that's where they need help.
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12-12-2002, 12:11 PM
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The Greatest One
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I doubt it. They wanted a worldwide release this generation. The reality is its too hard to pull off. For one that's way too many consoles to manufacture in a short period. And the launch lineups would also suffer. Most games don't get done in time for launch, now you expect them to be done it time, and translated and made for multiple regions? Not a chance.
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But you have to admit, M$ is the only company capable of handleing it.
Thier internal development houses are in US.. that means the US version of everything comes first. While the third party support rests in Japan. US could just get a more first party launch with 3rd party games later, while japan could have more of a third party launch with the 1st party US games later.
Nintendo and Sony don't have this luxury... they develop everything in Japan to start then port it to america... that's why Japan can always get the consoles first. MS could work both sides of the time line at the same time.
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I have a feeling MS will promise a worldwide release. But they won't deliver. I think they'll go with Japan first, because that's where they need help.
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Japan first? That would be a stupid move... who thinks Xbox 2 will do good in Japan anyway?
Also, like I said before, all thier first and second party developers are based here... so what will they do? Complete the games in english, then port to japanese and release4 it there first for the hell of it?
If the system is finished, and the games in english are finished, they won't wait to release it in US. That would be just as stupid as Nintendo releasing thier console in Europe before Japan... there's no point.
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12-12-2002, 12:38 PM
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Also, like I said before, all thier first and second party developers are based here... so what will they do? Complete the games in english, then port to japanese and release4 it there first for the hell of it?
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Umm No there not Microsoft has quite a few teams based in Japan well ok they only have 5 but it's a start! Most of the teams have been outsourced to other developers in Japan for the last year (To try and get more games) but they have at lest 3 in house games being made as we type in Japan.
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12-12-2002, 12:46 PM
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The Greatest One
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Umm No there not Microsoft has quite a few teams based in Japan well ok they only have 5 but it's a start! Most of the teams have been outsourced to other developers in Japan for the last year (To try and get more games) but they have at lest 3 in house games being made as we type in Japan.
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Ok, then the "majority" of them are here (better?)
If they complete games in english first, and get some third party support from US developers (EA and US's Sega houses)... I don't see why they wouldn't release it here first.
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12-12-2002, 02:03 PM
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Ok, then the "majority" of them are here (better?)
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Why Thank you! 
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12-12-2002, 03:14 PM
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But you have to admit, M$ is the only company capable of handleing it.
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I don't think any of them could do it.
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Thier internal development houses are in US.. that means the US version of everything comes first. While the third party support rests in Japan. US could just get a more first party launch with 3rd party games later, while japan could have more of a third party launch with the 1st party US games later.
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All that with get you is a half-ass lineup in 2 regions, instead of a great launch in 2 regions.
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Nintendo and Sony don't have this luxury... they develop everything in Japan to start then port it to america... that's why Japan can always get the consoles first. MS could work both sides of the time line at the same time.
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Not everything. Wave Race, 1080, Eternal Darkness, and Metroid Prime are all North American-made games.
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Japan first? That would be a stupid move... who thinks Xbox 2 will do good in Japan anyway?
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That's the reasoning behind Japan first.
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12-12-2002, 04:15 PM
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The Greatest One
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Gekko, the line-up couldn't be any worse than a Japanese Ps2 that launches at the same time.
Half assed launch or not, it would be the same or greater than the Ps3 launch if it came out world wide at the same time, right?
*looks at Ps2's japanese launch*
You can't tell me timing isn't everything.
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12-21-2002, 09:57 PM
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If Xbox 2 comes out before PS3, does that mean it will have inferior hardware?
We know absolutely NOTHING about either Xbox 2 or PS3 as far as the hardware goes (any numbers you may have read are rumors). Until some official specs/numbers are released, you cannot say which one will be techinally superior.
It will be at least a couple of years before Microsoft or Sony reveal their follow up consoles methinks... 
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