Good and Bad news from Sega, mostly good.

[GameKinG]

Well ago Sega mentioned that they might release the next Sonic on PS2 as well. Also, they may choose not to halt the sports games (as far the article said, nothng if final on that subject), and if they do, it may be just for that year.

[gekko]

Originally posted by TheGame
Sega and Nintendo's relationship must be going down the drain.

Spoken like a true Sega-hating fanboy.

Hate for Sega + news involving Sega = Stupid assumptions

But we always need someone from the other side to balance out my biased Sega praise.

[Dyne]

Actually their bond is strengthening, but it appears top weaken because they're becoming more "multi-platform". Haven't you remembered F-Zero? Triforce ring a bell? Virtua Fighter RPG on the Gamecube?

Oh, right.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Dyne
Actually their bond is strengthening, but it appears top weaken because they're becoming more "multi-platform". Haven't you remembered F-Zero? Triforce ring a bell? Virtua Fighter RPG on the Gamecube?

Oh, right.

Ok then, this isn't Sega's fault... it's Nintendo's.

They should have begged Sega to keep making sports games for the GCN. If thier bond is in fact "strong" I blame Ninhtendo. Nintendo used to do this BS back with N64. That's why there were so many gaps in the releases of EA Sports games, cause Nitnendo didn't give a damn. Same with NBA Courtside.

Right now I'm pointing fingers at one of the two, and I can understand why Sega would drops sports games from gCN by thier own decision, but I can't understand how Nintendo could let them drop it if thier relations are that good.

If it wasn't for Vice City (and probably soon to follow Smackdown), Madden would be Ps2's best seller right now. Why won't Nintendo buckle down and just make a system compatible with sports games?

If I owned Sega, I would probably make the same decision, Nintendo isn't forcing them to do anything. Plus, either way, the sales on GCN are the worst.... AND on top of that, Sega has to work harder on the GCN version than any other version because of the disk memory restrictions and the memory card restrictions.

Thank you for helping me understand who to point the finger at... I'm almost near the point of boycott with them. Let EA can one sports game next year.

[gekko]

Pointing fingers, playing the blame game. You gotta be kidding me.

This isn't about friendships and childish games, it's business. As a EA fanboy, you should know Sega Sports' sales numbers on Gamecube. They're not good. And I know you know Sega's financial situation, hell, you probably memorized it. Yet somehow you think this has to do with anything other than business? That's just stupid.

Sega Sports games are selling like **** on Gamecube. Sega needs to improve their financial situation. How do you do that? By getting rid of the games that aren't selling. It's common sense. Nintendo doesn't care, why should they? It's not like Nintendo is losing anything here. No one bought the games to begin with. Nintendo isn't losing a big selling game, so it wouldn't pay for Nintendo to pay for the continuation of these games; they didn't sell when they were on the system.

And your logic of Nintendo making systems always has been, and continues to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by TheGame
If I owned Sega, I would probably make the same decision

This quote kills half your arguement all-together gekko... learn how to read the whole post, as for the rest of your mindless babble.

And your logic of Nintendo making systems always has been, and continues to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Is it? You relize before 1999, over 90% of the games I owned were sports games right? You also relize that owned a N64 2 years before I purchased a Psx right?

So, in other words, I know what the hell I'm talking about... and sadly you don't. You are just another stupid Sega fanboy pissed at the fact that Sega fails at anything they try.

Thinking from a HARDCORE sports gamer's standpoint, I know that Nintendo isn't trying to do have anything to do with the genre of sports games.

Look at thier first parties

What happend to Retro? Weren't they supposed to be making a football game? They trash canned that real quick. Then they turn around and sell Left field.... where does that leave thier first party sports games? Simple, they have none.

Then Sega announces that the whole 2k4 year isn't coming out for GCN? Why wouldn't Nintendotry to stop them? Yes, I'm an EA fanboy, but I think the NBA 2k series is simply better than the NBA Live series. If I had only had a GCN I'd be one pissed off man if I had to go next year only playing Live.

Then there's NFL 2k.. you know what I think of it, but at the same time, I know what you think of it. If you only had a GCN I'm pretty sure this news wouldn't make you too happy.... unless you like Madden more than you are letting me know. (You maybe like it, cause most Sega fanboys like to bash the hell outta EA games but they know they buy at least oen of them every year anyway)

Nintendo knew madden was coming out, and Nintendo knew EA would need more than 500kb to give GCN the complete game... but, they also knew how they could rip off us all by charging $15 for a 500kb card... ($240 worth of cards to equal one Ps2 card)

In the N64 generation, they knew they made the MISTAKE of releaseing such a lol memory card, and they chose not to fix it.... You feel thier decision was the right thing to do? Yes, because you are a EA hating Sega fanboy.

But to puit an end to this... My favorite genre of games are sports games, not many people here at GT can say that. I follow the games more closely than anybody here. I was also (at a time) a Nintendo fanboy.... so how the hell can you sit here and tell me how Nintendo is treating sports games?

It may sound dumb to you because it never really effected your precious Sega games... til now. Oh wait, now it doesn't matter because no matter what Sega does it's smart, and if EA has a problem with Nitnendo's hardware it's EA's job to fix it.

Sega could cancel every sports game for Xbox and GCN and you wouldn't give a ****... but if EA did the same thing you would be laughing your ass off.

[gekko]

Originally posted by TheGame
What happend to Retro? Weren't they supposed to be making a football game? They trash canned that real quick. Then they turn around and sell Left field.... where does that leave thier first party sports games? Simple, they have none.

Retro wasn't getting anything done. They canceled a lot of games, one of which was the football game. Most people didn't like Left Field either. Nintendo's best sports games didn't come from them. Nintendo's best sports games were Mario Golf and Mario Tennis, and both are still coming.

Sega could cancel every sports game for Xbox and GCN and you wouldn't give a ****... but if EA did the same thing you would be laughing your ass off.

I buy Sega sports games for Xbox, I would care. And they did cancel them all for Gamecube, and I really don't care. Makes sense in my world. If EA canceled their sports games I would thank them for making the world a better place. But if Madden wasn't selling on the PS2, and it was canceled, i wouldn't care. It's like a system losing Britney's Dance Beat.