Rare: The Full Story - Page 2

09-11-2002, 09:35 PM

I'm proud to say I never loved Rare.

Never played Goldeneye, PerfectDark, Banjo Kazooie, etc.

Only Rare games I've played were Diddy Kong racing (pretty good), Banjo Tootie (could have done without that one), Conker's Bad Fur Day (pretty good but got bored with it).

Was really looking foward to SFA but after hearing how long it will be I was turned off. Don't want another game trying to extend the length by some stupid pointless repeatative missions or collecting. The graphics look great but the ugliest game (Animal Crossing) has won me over for the Fall game to get.

Jason1 · 09-11-2002, 09:36 PM

Comon guys, lets not kid yourselves. This is a big loss for Nintendo.

And am I correct in saying that Rare is now a second party of Microsoft? Or are they 3rd party and still might make games for Gamecube?

gekko · 09-11-2002, 09:44 PM

I really don't care too much. Haven't been impressed with Rare very often. The old SNES games were great, Banjo-Kazooie and GoldenEye and DKR were great, but for the last few years on N64 they really sucked. Banjo-Tooie sucked ass. JFG was very disapointing. DK64 was horrible. PD was unimpressive. Conker was funny, but as a platformer it wasn't great, and it lost its appeal fast. And I've never been interested in SFA.

So personally, I don't care that they're gone. But I will miss Donkey Kong Racing

Still, I think it's stupid that MS bought them. Then again, Xbox fans only buy thing because of hype, and the Rare name will fit right in. But Rare was good working with Nintendo, and everyone agrees Nintendo makes great games. Microsoft on the other hand, can't make a game to save their soul, so Rare loses the help and it stuck doing it on their own. Best of luck to them, but I'm not expecting the same stuff that we've seen before.

The Germanator · 09-11-2002, 09:50 PM

I'm pretty dissapointed now...I love Rare games and always have. I think I pretty much own all of em. And though they had some hiccups (DK64), they still made some of the best games out there, IMO. Well, I'll still be very excited to play Star Fox Adventures, and maybe I'll buy an Xbox when Rare starts making games for it, and hopefully it'll be even cheaper then or something.

Null · 09-11-2002, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Bond
You guys just don't like Rare anymore because Nintendo no longer owns it. Don't make excuses.

Yes, it is true. Everyone loved Rare and all their games, up until this story. Now all the GameCube fanboys will hate Rare, and they will all say they never liked their games and they won't like any of their new ones. Yet in fact they hyped them before all of this.

someones sure sounding like a fanboy

maybe they were all rooting rare before cuz they were with nintendo. now they're not they're letting thier feelings out. (not all but some)

you cant honestly say they've been all that great as of late. speically since Conker came out. they've had nothing.

only rare game i have is Goldeneye (and it ownz)

IMO SFA will be fighting with metroid for Best GC game of 2002.

but ya run around sayin eveyrones a fanboy all the time. Who cares? let them be. but for the love of god, No one here has a freakin opinion anymore cuz they're all afriad of being called fanboys. if they are so be it. most are not tho. if they chose not to like a company for whatever reason it does not make them a fanboy.

GameMaster · 09-12-2002, 12:34 AM

Apparently, there are some people who feel that just because of recent events between Rare and Nintendo that suddenly myself and others are no longer looking foward to StarFox Adventures. Perhaps this is true for some of those individuals. However, there are those of us who were actually never enticed by this game, I for one. My loss of interest and dissappointment originates at the very beginning when we learn that StarFox and Dinosaur Planet are to be merged into one adventure. The Zelda style of play was what dissappointed me. I was hoping for an Arwing based adventure as were the first two titles, a continuation. That's what made StarFox games StarFox. Don't get me wrong now. I'm not saying this was the way it should of been. I understand that this is someone else's creation and this is their story, not mine. However, it's my opinion, that StarFox has been taking out of context and character. As far as myself and anyone else knew, StarFox was an exceptional fighter pilot. But where does his skill with the spear and magic from? I think it's kind of funny how quickly he picks this up. Oh well, no one's forcing me to buying it, right?

TheGame · 09-12-2002, 12:35 AM

This is funny...

anyways...

I look at it like this, Biggest loss to Nintendo since Aki (makers of thier best selling third party games last generation, WWF) The fact is, now Microsoft has the two best (home console) FPS makers in the world. For Gameplay on home consoles, Rare still is the best home console FPS creator, gekko can't even deny that (

), they just need the right game to put thier gameplay engine behind.

Rare may have been weak as of late too, but nobody can deny that they are still Nintendo's best second party.

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Yeah I don't think PD0 was ever officially announced... but people pretty much knew there'd be some kind of Rare FPS on the console eventually, and there were all those PD0 rumors and chit chat so yeah....

"Perfect Dark 0" is the official name. It was On Nintendo's SW2001 and E3 2001/2002 show lists, but swifty pulled away before each show started. It is real, for some reason Nintendo kept pulling it from the official list.... we see why now.

Blackmane · 09-12-2002, 02:15 AM

I liked the looks of SFA before Rare left.

I like the looks of it after Rare left.

The game is still the same guys. I know MANY of you who said that they were at least looking forward to the game are now saying it sucks, and they never really liked Rare or there games.

Just admit your mad at Rare for leaving, we all are a little bit. Thats no reason to diss the same games we loved a year ago.

thatmariolover · 09-12-2002, 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by Bond
You guys just don't like Rare anymore because Nintendo no longer owns it. Don't make excuses.

Yes, it is true. Everyone loved Rare and all their games, up until this story. Now all the GameCube fanboys will hate Rare, and they will all say they never liked their games and they won't like any of their new ones. Yet in fact they hyped them before all of this.

Yeah. I think Xbox fans all around have got a point. Many people are having a hard time adjusting to the fact that we don't have Rare anymore. Obviously they are in denial (one of the stages of depression).

I myself am terrified of the fact that Rare is now gone. But I also look at the benifits we may gain. Nintendo has made EXCELLENT choices when it comes to 2'nd party studios that they invest in. This money, as stated in the article above, will be used to found new development houses. So, in a way it's a double edged sword.

Life is like a box of choco... (Oh sh!+... I just quoted Forest Gump, runs away shreaking like a cheerleader).

Angrist · 09-12-2002, 09:10 AM

Let's just hope that Nintendo will make a FPS... the best one ever.

Anyway, Rare was cool, they've made some kick-@$$ games. But almost all their N64 games were made with the help of Ninty. So... are they good enough to keep up that pace?? We know what happened to Free Radicals, the team that made Golden Eye... The weird thing is, Nintendo and Rare put together a new team to make Perfect Dark, and that game turned out great, while TimeSplitters didn't...

Bube · 09-12-2002, 09:55 AM

There's something else. Something most people don't see. It's not like Microsoft took Rare away from Nintendo. MS wanted to buy Rare, and Nintendo sold their shares to MS. So Nintendo practically gave Rare away.

I've always liked Rare, BTW.

Banjo-Threeie on the X-Box!

Shadow_Link · 09-12-2002, 12:13 PM

It's a good thing I still have my Xbox

.

Just as long as the quality of Rare titles does not suffer, I don't care which system they are on.

It is interesting though. The article stated how Nintendo and Rare were negotiating which titles would stay and which would go with Rare, such as PD... I'm not really sure on this, but weren't Rare's best selling titles their FPS's? GE and PD. If Nintendo manage to hold onto PD, then I am certain that development of the next game in the series will be handed over to Retro Studios, which recently turned 1st party. As many may know, Retro is comprised of some of the best 'FPS' developers in the world, people ranging from Half-life etc...

I guess in time everything will be known.

Bube · 09-12-2002, 01:42 PM

Did Retro turn 1st or 2nd party? As far as I know, 1st parties are developers who also make consoles. So Retro should be 2nd? Or not? Help?

Crash · 09-12-2002, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
Let's just hope that Nintendo will make a FPS... the best one ever.

Anyway, Rare was cool, they've made some kick-@$$ games. But almost all their N64 games were made with the help of Ninty. So... are they good enough to keep up that pace?? We know what happened to Free Radicals, the team that made Golden Eye... The weird thing is, Nintendo and Rare put together a new team to make Perfect Dark, and that game turned out great, while TimeSplitters didn't...

metroid?

Idiot · 09-12-2002, 01:57 PM

Well, the rumour mills trundling on....