MS projects further $ losses on the box - Page 2

Bond · 06-26-2002, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Jason1
Just wondering, If microsoft loses at least 150 bucks on every X-Box sold, and PS2 looses a little, what about the Gamecube? Now that its at 149, is it losing money? Anybody know?

I believe it's around $75 or so, although I could be wrong.

Jin · 06-27-2002, 12:41 AM

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is making an upgraded XBox that'll cost about $500? Who the hell's going to buy that? All the people who have XBoxs aren't going to get one because they all ready have an XBox. Then all the people who have TiVo and DVD players won't want to dish out all that money for something that they currently own. The only people that are going to buy this are people that are rich and don't mind throwin' half a grand around pointlessly.

Is Microsoft still going to be making the original XBoxs, or are they going to stop production to make these new ones? If they continue to sell the original ones they'll be fine, but if they stop making them, and only sell the new ones they're going to regret it.

Professor S · 06-27-2002, 08:46 AM

Well at $500 the hybrid XBox with obviously be aimed at the affluent, and will actually be marketed yowards the whole family because of the other entertainment aspect of the game. This might make purchasing their kid an XBox for attractive to their parents, because they'll actually use it too.

Its hard to prognosticate how this hybrid will do, since its really a new idea all together.

I think they'll continue to make the straight XBox though. is continuing it for the hybrid would just be stupid.

Sega fan · 06-27-2002, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
Wow, they're making an upgraded X-Box, that will work!

Yeah and the N64 DD really worked too.

I could just imagine a CD based N64.

TheGame · 06-27-2002, 01:23 PM

People, Microsoft has a lot of Money to lose... and they are willing to pay the price to top Sony.

I said X-Box 2's job is to start making back money, but does that mean they will profit off of it? No.

Nothing may happen good financially til X-Box 5 is released, but until then, Microsoft is trying to build a following that most likely will get bigger and bigger with each generation.

And Gekko, Microsoft WILL most likely have the best hardware next generation, and they will also spend a ton of money on it... why? Not to make a profit, to make a fanbase. They are trying to hack a huge industry, and in this industry if you don't have a name, it takes a LOT of money to make money. Once the fanbase gets big enough, they will become like Nintendo, the biggest rip-off company on the market.

In the end, it may pay off, or it may not, either way they will keep releasing hardcore gamer dream machines.

Shadow_Link · 06-27-2002, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Sega fan

Yeah and the N64 DD really worked too. I could just imagine a CD based N64.

Wow! You're the smart one!

I fail to see where the 64DD comes into this? He didn't mention anything about it. So the point of your post was?

Ok, back to the topic. I agree with TheGame to an extent, that they are trying to build up a larger fanbase... BUT... But I don't think the purpose of it is to build up a fanbase for their next consoles, but more to do with gaining more followers for their 'other' products. They are basically reaching out to people so that they will become interested in their 'core' brand, which everyone knows what it is

. Though the Xbox isn't going to be a leader, let along profitable, it is their vehicle to widen interest in their core brands. And I do think that they would make more money by expanding business in what they are market leaders in, instead of making profits which will be shared 3 ways in the videogame business...

That's my take on it, whether it's the case is a different matter altogether

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Angrist · 06-27-2002, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by Sega fan

Yeah and the N64 DD really worked too. I could just imagine a CD based N64.

Ehm... I'm not sure if you agree with me or not.

The 64DD didn't work, upgrades often "don't work". So... will this thing work??

Professor S · 06-27-2002, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Shadow_Link

Ok, back to the topic. I agree with TheGame to an extent, that they are trying to build up a larger fanbase... BUT... But I don't think the purpose of it is to build up a fanbase for their next consoles, but more to do with gaining more followers for their 'other' products. They are basically reaching out to people so that they will become interested in their 'core' brand, which everyone knows what it is . Though the Xbox isn't going to be a leader, let along profitable, it is their vehicle to widen interest in their core brands. And I do think that they would make more money by expanding business in what they are market leaders in, instead of making profits which will be shared 3 ways in the videogame business...

That's my take on it, whether it's the case is a different matter altogether .

Well, I would agree with you except for the fact that you're completely wrong

The XBox is MS's way of reaching into the entertainment field and move away from just being a software company alone. This is why they are combining the XBox with UltimateTV and other media related equipment. It was MS's goal all along to create an all in one entertainment machine. MS eventually wants to be Sony with Software (hey!! Alliteration!!!)

Sega fan · 06-27-2002, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
Ehm... I'm not sure if you agree with me or not.

The 64DD didn't work, upgrades often "don't work". So... will this thing work??

God Anirgist all these "undercover" bashes of X-Box from your side really piss me of. I've never met such a provocative person on a message board.

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories...872320,00.html

According to a recent Red Herring article, it's been estimated that Microsoft will lose $750 million this fiscal year and around $1.1 billion in the next fiscal year due to costs associated with manufacturing and selling its Xbox console. The same article also reported that the Xbox design team has been working on an alternate form of the Xbox hardware that will support Microsoft's Ultimate TV, a digital recording device similar to TiVo.
"Regarding a hybrid box, we are moving full steam ahead with the Xbox in its current state while staying deadly focused on games," David Hufford, Xbox product manager at Microsoft, told the publication. "Of course we have engineers looking at dozens of possibilities for the future of the console."

There satisfied?? It's not an ADD-ON it's a X-Box with EXTRA features, just like the GCN with a DVD.

So we'll be recording things from the telie to DVDs... Satisfied.

God Anargist, trying to mock X-Box on every corner.

Shadow_Link · 06-27-2002, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler

Well, I would agree with you except for the fact that you're completely wrong

The XBox is MS's way of reaching into the entertainment field and move away from just being a software company alone. This is why they are combining the XBox with UltimateTV and other media related equipment. It was MS's goal all along to create an all in one entertainment machine. MS eventually wants to be Sony with Software (hey!! Alliteration!!!)

Eh, that could be true too, I was just offering an alternate take on this situation. Doesn't harm to bring in different scenarios

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yes_yes i am · 06-29-2002, 04:59 PM

xbox has better games than gamecube.

Jonbo298 · 06-29-2002, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by yes_yes i am
xbox has better games than gamecube.

You trying to start something?

Bond · 06-29-2002, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by yes_yes i am
xbox has better games than gamecube.

Mind supporting your reasoning? It's a personal opinion on which console has the best games, and it depends how which type of games/genres you like.

gekko · 06-29-2002, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by yes_yes i am
xbox has better games than gamecube.

<-- yes_yes i am

fingersman · 06-29-2002, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by yes_yes i am
xbox has better games than gamecube.

That is strictly opinionated.

Neways moving on....I know what M$ could do too get that Xbox thingy on the market.....I bet that they will tell you that you will get the new Xbox if you just give them $150 plus ur old Xbox.

I think that would be smart....I think.