Thousands chant 'Get out, Bush!'

[Krypton]

Bush doesnt think about the actions he takes.

He takes them too quickly and doesn't think about what he just did.

[Professor S]

I doesn't matter, Bond. He could be a friggin' infanticidal serial killer and no one would care as long as he chanted "No More Bush!!!" while stabbing babies in the face with a rusty scissors. The only qualification you need to be applauded by the left is to hate GWB. Funny, thats pretty much sums up all you need to be leading voice for the Democratic party nowadays, too.

As long as you hate Bush the media will ignore anything else that you do, or how hipocritical you are. Have you seen any of this in the media lately?

1) It was recently discovered that Mr. Michael Moore's foundation invested in Haliburton as well as several Pharmaceutical corporations. All of these he pretends to despise and rails against, while making a boatload of cash off of everyone he duped. Not even the Daily Show will touch Moore, even though they did delight in going after Mike Wilson who made the documentary "Michael Moore Hates America", a film which actually doesn't have all that much to do with Moore.

2) Iraq actually had several thousand pounds of Uranium in the country and it was rediscovered by our military after we went in and unseated Saddam. I say rediscovered because apparently out intelligence agencies knew about it for a long time, and since it was known about news organizations can excuse the constant claim that no WMD's or materials were found. I guess Uranium that we know about is less dangerous than Uranium we recently find. Also, the labs and materials for Reisin (sp?) gas were found too, which I've mentioned here before, but since the gas wasn't cooked up that doesn't count either.

3) The Oil-for-Food investigation is getting really interesting, not only implicating head officials of the UN, but also France and one Mr. George Galloway who is a leading socialist and war-opponent in the UK (and also praised Saddam on occasion).

4) We've heard how many soldiers have died in Iraq as it made the front page of papers across the country and the world, but how many terrorists and insurgents have been killed? How many provinces in Iraq have no violence at all? How many schools have been rebuilt? How many new businesses have been started? Etc.

Why isn't any of this news? Good news for Bush is bad news to the left and the media. Anything that doesn't paint the war as the next Vietnam, an opinion that the media has been wanting to validate for almost 2 years now seeing how they were salivating in anticipation for 2,000th soldier to die, is not newsworthy to those that want to shape public opinion more than they want to present fair reporting of activities.

But why care about it? Those that want to blame Bush for everything will just ignore any good news anyway. The ends justify the crazy-ass-paranoid-idealism.

And I'm OUT.

[Typhoid]

Strangler, surely you can provide proof for all of those facts, can you not?

[Professor S]

Most I've gleaned from radio and internet, but I'll see if I can scrounge them up. Probably not until tomorrow since I have to be in at work in 20 minutes.

But I think I have pretty good track record when it comes to quoting factual evidence in my arguments, rather then just going off half-cocked and saying whatever inane thing comes into my brain.

[Typhoid]

I wasnt taking a shot at you for not showing proof you know.

But thanks for the attempted slander towards me anyways.

I was simply asking for proof.

Track record or not, nothing is ligitimately valid without proof.

[Bond]

Michael Moore owns Halliburton

"I don't own a single share of stock!" filmmaker Michael Moore proudly proclaimed.

He's right. He doesn't own a single share. He owns tens of thousands of shares including nearly 2,000 shares of Boeing, nearly 1,000 of Sonoco, more than 4,000 of Best Foods, more than 3,000 of Eli Lilly, more than 8,000 of Bank One and more than 2,000 of Halliburton, the company most vilified by Moore in "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Uranium and Resin labs being found in Iraq should be common knowledge. It would only require a few minutes of effort on your part to find the sources.

The massive Oil For Food scandal should also be common knowledge and would also require only a few minutes of effort on your part.

[Dylflon]

Whoa. Why did this turn into a Moore bash, Bond?

Stay on topic.

[Professor S]

Typhoid, sorry if my comment came off as an attack. It honestly wasn't meant to be specifically aimed at you, but after reading my comment I can see how anyone could have taken it as such.

The Oil-for-Food stuff is widely available, as well as the Resin stuff, but I'll try and find it for you. Bond already hit on the Michael Moore topic.

As for the Uranium, thats actually very interesting as I've dont more research into it and it turns out that while I was technically correct, the Uranium found was not weapons grade, but instead enriched Uranium mainly used for medical purposes, left behind when the weapons grade stuff was removed in 1992. I'll do more checking as the details are still a bit clouded. The more research I do, that harder it is to find a straight answer, as every source seems to want to report their opinion rather than the unadulterated truth.

Right now, I'm tired as hell and need to go to bed.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Whoa. Why did this turn into a Moore bash, Bond?

Stay on topic.

Read: Strangler's post - then Typhoid's reply asking for a source.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Bond

Read: Strangler's post - then Typhoid's reply asking for a source.

Sorry, sir.

I was skimming.

[Professor S]

From CNN.com (could only find a blog that contained the quote, not the actual source)

Materials for Ricin Gas:
U.S. troops in Iraq have found 300 bags of a type of bean used to produce a deadly poison, U.S. officials said. The discovery was made in a former brake fluid plant. The bags of castor beans were marked "urea," which is a fertilizer compound. Castor beans are used in the production of ricin, a poison that can be used in biological weapons. U.S. officials said the discovery is under investigation.

Gee, beans used to make gas and they were marked as fertilizer to hide their contents. I see NO problems with that.


Mobile Labs

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/...973195,00.html

These labs have been "debunked" as biological warfare labs, but they were never examined for chemical uses, or why they would have fermentation tanks, why they were mobile (its makes more sense to uses trucks to move materials from a central location than to move the lab... unless what they were intended to do was illegal and they wanted to hid them).

At best people don't know what they were for, at worst we can use common sense to realize it wasn't for "hydrogen for military balloons" and that whatever they were intended to be used for was not good. Materials for Gas + Facilities that can make gas = They probably wanted to make gas at some point.


Oil for Food

Here is a massive site dedicated to exposing the embarrassment that is the UN Oil for Food program

http://acepilots.com/unscam/

Here is a more specific report dealing with the charges from my post:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...orld-headlines

Coleman, a critic of the United Nations, said his panel's evidence shows that Galloway personally solicited and was granted oil allocations totaling 23 million barrels from 1999 through 2003. Those allocations could be sold for a profit.

The report also alleges that Galloway's friend, Jordanian businessman Fawaz Zureikat, funneled money from the oil-for-food program to Galloway's wife, Amineh Abu-Zayyad, and to the Mariam Appeal, a political organization that Galloway established in 1998 to help a 4-year-old Iraqi girl with leukemia.

Coleman said his investigators confirmed their evidence in interviews with former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, a friend of Galloway's, and former Iraqi Vice President Taha Yasin Ramadan.