Revolution Details - Page 2

Dark Samurai · 05-13-2005, 02:38 PM

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The versatile Revolution will play either horizontally or vertically, allowing the user total flexibility in setting up a gaming session wherever they have a television.

Why, Nintendo, why...

gekko · 05-13-2005, 02:43 PM

Let's recap what happened with PS2...

Went on sale in Japan for less than a stand-alone DVD player. Sold like crazy. .25 games per console. The Matrix DVD sales sky-rocketed, and outsold every PS2 game.

Now HD-DVD is supposed to be out next year, and should be at consumer prices by some time in 2007. Considering we'll only get these console in late 2006, that means shortly after. These consoles have the power to display 1080p, because the technology is expensive and they're sold at a loss. That's why it takes longer for stand-alone players to drop in price.

With HD-DVD becoming more popular, so will 1080p compatible TVs. New DLP chips are supposed to do 1920x1080 resolution, and with that are supposed to start supporting 1080p. I know some LCDs on the market right now already do.

Anyway, in the first couple years after these console are released, HD-DVD and 1080p TVs will be a reality. But will you get it on that console you just dumped $400 on? Nope, because it came out just months too soon.

If Nintendo or Sony was willing to push back the release of their console even until spring 2007, they could likely add support for HD-DVD playback, which unlike DVD which was already popular in America, HD-DVD won't be common in any region.

HD-DVD playback, supporting HDMI and DVI output, as well as making 1080p a supported resolution for gaming, and you've just taken your console to a completely different level. For a console that is supposed to be the best technology available, and last for 5 years (6 from now), I'd like to know that it supports features that will be out in 2 years.

If you're going to do it, do it right.

Jonbo298 · 05-13-2005, 02:54 PM

Only dual layer dvd's? Jeez, Sony is pumping out Blu-Ray for a massive 50 gigs on disk (possibly, depending

) and I think MS is using eiter dual layer dvd or HD-DVD (I cant remember :cry: )

Go with a nice large format. The reason 3rd parties hate porting games to a Nintendo console is because Nintendo shafts the size of their medium used and forces developers to have to make cuts. But with a nice large format, thats not an issue,

Wake up to 2006 Nintendo. Bigger medium is great. Not puny things like you have done in the past and still continue to do so to this day...

Xantar · 05-13-2005, 04:22 PM

I think you're all overestimating the market penetration of next generation disc formats. Right now, they haven't even settled on whether it's going to be Blu-Ray or HD-DVD (or some hybrid thereof). Yeah, I hear Sony and Toshiba are working out a compromise, but when do you suppose we'll find out the results of that?

Besides that, people have just gotten done moving from VCR to DVD. Do you really think they're going to jump all over a new format so soon? The only reason to use a next generation disc is to have high definition movies. The problem is HDTV isn't catching on so quickly. I certainly have no interest in getting an HDTV. They're too expensive, and the increased resolution doesn't justify the cost. And it most certainly isn't catching on so quickly in Europe or Japan, either.

And besides that, if Nintendo is behind the times and using a puny medium, then so is Microsoft. They've never struck me as being unwilling to spend the cash to have the latest and greatest technology. If it's good enough for Microsoft, why isn't it good enough for Nintendo?

gekko · 05-13-2005, 04:42 PM

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I think MS is using eiter dual layer dvd or HD-DVD (I cant remember :cry: )

MS is using dual-layered DVDs, the exact same format they used on Xbox.

Sony has announced Blu-Ray, but that has since been ruled out by the merging format. They might go back to DVD. They might wait it out.

As for the results, early next week we're supposed to hear what they agreed upon. From there, it'll be a while before the disc is ready, but it'll be a while before these consoles are released too.

Actually, from what I'm hearing, HDTV is much bigger in Japan than it is here. Same with broadband internet. Europe... is on its own program.

DVD is one of the fastest growing technologies ever. HDTVs are slowly but surely getting into homes. You have to keep in mind, it took forever for digital cable to set a standard, and owning a HDTV, digital cable box, and HDTV receiver is not appealing to people. Now, slide in a cable card and you're set. Only recently have TVs began adding support for digital cable and HD signals.

The difference between DVD and HD-DVD is like night and day. There's no reason someone who invested in an HDTV wouldn't want to get a HD-DVD player, especially if the hybrid discs go into effect, with DVD and HD-DVD on the same disc.

And Microsoft isn't behind the times. Blu-Ray is ridiculously expensive right now, and a format that is essentially, dead. The largest, single-sided disc-based format is back to DVD9. But that's what MS gets for rushing their console out.

DarkMaster · 05-13-2005, 04:47 PM

http://www.vandal.net/foro/cache/238896_1.htm

:O

;-)

gekko · 05-13-2005, 04:58 PM

What... in god's name... is that?

Dyne · 05-13-2005, 05:03 PM

"This file has been downloaded 666 times already."

On Friday the 13th?

I CAN NOT SEE ANY GOOD OUT OF THIS.

Edit: Well it was pretty impressive for a mockup. Too bad the Revolution's game character models were so crappy.

Regardless, the Mario 64 Castle montage was very, very impressive.

GameMaster · 05-13-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster

http://www.vandal.net/foro/cache/238896_1.htm

:O

;-)

OH MY GOD! If that is the first peak at Nintendo Revolution, God grant mercy to PS3 and Xbox! The Revolution can play 512 million Super Mario 64s at once, building them into one giant ultra mega Peach castle. The revolutionary headset allows people to walk in the characters of Samus and Mario! That video was ****ING AMAZING!

DarrenMcLeod · 05-13-2005, 06:06 PM

That was the craziest thing I've ever seen. I'm not even sure what to think yet.
EDIT: IGN claims it's fake. http://cube.ign.com/articles/613/613578p1.html

The Germanator · 05-13-2005, 06:24 PM

That was pretty crazy and pretty cool. I really don't think that I would like to play games with a headset on. What if I'm playing in a very small room and I can't afford to walk around?

Dark Samurai · 05-13-2005, 06:55 PM

That was impressive... I like the music... hated the graphics...

Teuthida · 05-13-2005, 06:56 PM

*sniff* some day...

GameMaster · 05-13-2005, 07:28 PM

Umm...why are we taking IGN's word for this? Do they possess an all-knowing eye? Nope.

They can't prove it false or true, only Nintendo can.

Until we hear word from Nintendo, this video is true.

BreakABone · 05-13-2005, 07:58 PM

Well rather weird, it seems like Nintendo has changed the wording on their website a lot...

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Thanks to Nintendo's hardware development partners IBM and ATI, the small system will be packed with power that will enable it to wow players with its graphics. Nintendo's legions of loyal fans will be happy to learn that Revolution will be backward compatible, playing both Nintendo GameCube 8cm disks along with its own 12cm optical disks in the same self-loading media drive.