Artist Battle: Kyuzo vs. Vampyr (Art Submission) - Page 2

Vampyr · 03-11-2005, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fox 6

Isn't there some sort of Judging Panel Light Beacon you can activate?

Or some sword you can hold up and go "Royal Panel, Royal Panel, Royal Panel HOOO!"

GameMaster · 03-12-2005, 12:17 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, the panelists have all responded and it is now time to announce the winner of our very first Digital Art Battle.

As we gather here today to congratulate both our winner and loser for a good battle, please remember that these judgments rest soley on the pieces submitted today and the outcome of this event does reflect your total talent.

I would like to thank our two contestants, Kyuzo and Vampyr for their effort and work. You both are exceptional artists who will do many great things in your lives. You will forever be remembered as GameTavern's first two warriors in the Digital Art Battles.

I'd also like to thank the Royal Panel for their critiques and participation. And now the moment we've been waitingfor. We'll first begin by posting each Royal Panelist's decision and closing comments:

Judgement One:

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i would have to choose vampyr's work "Heroic".

it has the look of a professionally designed graphic, although there's something about the font that doesn't seem to fit. i really like the colour and brush choices.

the colouring of kyuzo's work doesn't fit the central graphic. i'm also not a big fan of the grungey brush used in the background... *shrug*

Judgement Two:

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My choice is Heroic by Vampyr. My comments: Great piece done. Really shows out The Human Torch. Nice brushing and other things used. I only have a few minor minor things. Its bright for a reason but maybe a little too bright. More flames would be nice. But those are minor complaints to a great piece.

But overall, a really well done piece.

Comments to Kyuzo's Meteor Rain: Very nicely done also. It really shows the 'pain' seen in the image to the lower left of the picture. Lighting, brightness, etc..done really well. I just felt more 'pulled in' by Vampyr's.

Overall: Really nice job done you 2. Very excellent pieces.

Judgement Three:

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Choose Vampyr's work, Heroic.

I like Vampyr's work because it thrives for something original - something interesting to the eye. The strokes all around the Torch are fun to look at. I would've chosen Kyuzo's piece but I have seen a lot of other pieces like it.

Judgement Four

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i would pick Kyuzo's FF:AC picure because it's not as random as Vamp's and it's easier on the eyes...for me.

also i like the theme and the colours he used for the theme.

looks more organized, yet simple...which isn't always bad.

you can go ahead and say i said that

Judgement Five

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I pick Kyuzo because it has a better sense of space. The ff logo, the picture, and the honeycomb graphic create a triangle that makes the viewer scan the whole image. Vampyr's was flashy but I just didn't like the page's layout. Given the content of the image I think he could have expanded it quite a bit more instead of just having a centered image on a nice flashy background.

Final Score:

Vampyr: 3
Kyuzo: 2

There being no further business, it is my duty to announce Vampyr as the winner.

Congratulations Vampyr and Kyuzo for your great work and efforts!

I would now like both contestants to give a speech.

Vampyr · 03-12-2005, 12:45 AM

I would like to say thanks to everyone, especially Kyuzo for providing such a challenging competition. This is the first Art Battle I was ever in, and it was very exciting. I spent the entire week looking forward to Friday.

I would also like to thank the judges who chose my piece, and those who didn't. It sounds like you did a good job grading us.

I look forward to future art battles, and hopefully we can have some free for alls, with more than two artists involved, although duels will still be extremely entertaining.

Good job Kyuzo. (You owe me 200 doubloons.

)

GM, do you think we could have like a GameTavern hall of fame stickied in the Artists guild, with every winner of the art competitions work put there?

MuGen · 03-12-2005, 01:28 AM

Congratulations on winning this one Vampyr, your doubloons is on the way. I would like to thank the judges. For future reference, I did not use Grungey brushes in the background of the image, it was pure 3D Render. So it was a faulty interpretation, but an interpretation it was, so I accept it.

And Vampyr... I would like a rematch... only do something I haven't seen before. I was looking forward to seeing some of the art I haven't seen before, which was the whole point of my challenging you. I was a little disappointed at your piece, as I've seen some of it already in your signature. The piece is in no way, lacking.... However I do want to see new work and work I haven't seen, in future challenges.

Rematch, set for next Friday?

Agree to these terms:
1. Must be totally new work (hehe)
2. Elements allowed: Any art program you feel is needed
3. Image Dimensions: No restriction
4. Stock Images: None (completely rendered/fabricated in Photoshop)

No vBookie event, forum members will vote, no panel judges. (I would like to hear from our fellow members... and without the vBookie we will have honest and all out critiques to our work.)

Accept these rules,
Decline these rules?

(your 200 doubloons is coming!)

Vampyr · 03-12-2005, 01:34 AM

I would accept...but GM and I have cooked up another idea. I'm sure he will be posting it within the next 24 hours. Don't worry though...our dueling will witness another sunrise...

In the mean time I have to "purchase" 3D Studio Max off the internet so that I can make some renders to use in our next showdown, because i can't win with just photoshop and not allowed to use any stock photo's.

I look forward to battling you again.

And just so you know, my sig isn't a section of that piece. I completely remade the background for it.

Good battle, old friend.

Dark Samurai · 03-12-2005, 01:52 AM

In both, Kyuzo's and Vampyr's pieces...

I was impressed, though if I was one of the judges for this said competition... I would've gone for Kyuzo's piece, rather than Vamp's. Reason being is, Kyuzo's had a lot more of an originality than Vamp's, because I've seen that graphic before.

Not to be hyper-critical, but Vampyr's work has been done and Kyuzo's work was new...

But I have nothing bad to say about the pieces, except maybe on Kyuzo's where its too "gray" and Vamp's where the guy looks like he just farted...

Vampyr · 03-12-2005, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

In both, Kyuzo's and Vampyr's pieces...

I was impressed, though if I was one of the judges for this said competition... I would've gone for Kyuzo's piece, rather than Vamp's. Reason being is, Kyuzo's had a lot more of an originality than Vamp's, because I've seen that graphic before.

Not to be hyper-critical, but Vampyr's work has been done and Kyuzo's work was new...

But I have nothing bad to say about the pieces, except maybe on Kyuzo's where its too "gray" and Vamp's where the guy looks like he just farted...

Lol. He's erupting from the flames!!!

And *I* was the one who used the render before...I can't lose originality for that, can I? Ah well. There will be future battles.

There were just a couple things I didn't like about Kyuzo's:

1. The static.
2. He put a lot of work into making a 3d render, but made it so faint that all the emphasis was on the cloud picture.

MuGen · 03-12-2005, 03:45 AM

The 3d render was an accent/offset to maintain a visual presence that I was aiming for the struggle that was Final Fantasy VII. I'm going to start posting random designs I do.

I'll try to make this Artists Guild, a real guild and bring all the artists together...

just like the Shadowness Community and DeviantArt.

GameMaster · 03-12-2005, 03:52 AM

The position of Artist Guild Leader is already taken!

Good day, Sir!

MuGen · 03-12-2005, 03:58 AM

I think it's too quick to determine Vampyr as Art Battle Champion, GM, considering he's only beaten me in battle.....

GameMaster · 03-12-2005, 04:02 AM

No, I meant me. The leader is different from the champion. The leader organizes events and hosts them.

Null · 03-12-2005, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

In both, Kyuzo's and Vampyr's pieces...

I was impressed, though if I was one of the judges for this said competition... I would've gone for Kyuzo's piece, rather than Vamp's. Reason being is, Kyuzo's had a lot more of an originality than Vamp's, because I've seen that graphic before.

Not to be hyper-critical, but Vampyr's work has been done and Kyuzo's work was new...

But I have nothing bad to say about the pieces, except maybe on Kyuzo's where its too "gray" and Vamp's where the guy looks like he just farted...

I agree, i was suprised by the results. i definitely woulda gone with kyuzos.
Altho i wonder if his monitor is darker because on mine it appeared a little too light and had a slight grainy look. But other then that it was very well done, clear and clean.
vamps, while it was good, too many little things bugged me, it looks like flat picture of a 3d image, cut out and moving out of a 3d background. might be a bit of the way its blended, but it just doesnt look right. That and the text looks 2 plain and doesnt really fit in with the image. to say it the easiest way, the text on kyuzo's looks like its part of the image, the text on vamps looks like it was put ontop of the image afterwards.

but good pictures on both side tho.

MuGen · 03-12-2005, 01:26 PM

I accept the outcome, however I kinda iffy on some of the panelist interpretations. A lot of them did NOT get my message and those panelists who did get the feel of struggle and pain , understood the color choice and effects in my piece.

This is why I wanted a rematch with GT members voting, and not betting... so we know whose voting and we get to hear everyone's opinion.... Such as some of the artists here, Bluefire, Crash, and you...... Null.... lol

But in any case, it's hard to accept judgement from a person you don't know or see....
Next battle I want GT members critiquing and voting.

Vampyr · 03-12-2005, 01:31 PM

But you can't blame someone for interpreting your art the "wrong" way. People feel whatever they want to feel from it.

MuGen · 03-12-2005, 01:34 PM

Like I said, Vamp..... I accept the outcome........ However next time I would like to be judged by people I can see, people with names.

It's an empty gratuitous gesture to thank judges you don't know.

I'm surprised Null and BLueFire wasn't part of the panel considering they are part of the Artist's Clique in GT more than anyone else. I'm pretty sure Null or BF didn't bet in the vBookie either.

Another thing I wanted to ask you Vamp..... How did you render that in Photoshop only? It seems like the lighting effects and material could only be done in 3dSM... and you don't have it.

I'd like to know...