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Old 02-25-2005, 08:36 PM   #16
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And no controller is good for fps games.
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Old 02-25-2005, 09:21 PM   #17
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And no controller is good for fps games.
Wait...I'm agreeing with Null on something? Thats unpossible!
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Old 02-25-2005, 09:25 PM   #18
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alright! they all agree with me! im popular! muhahahaha
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Old 02-25-2005, 11:39 PM   #19
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Innovative?

I say ****ty.

Bend your fingers like that for a half hour and see how they feel.
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:07 AM   #20
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And no controller is good for fps games.
Heh, very true, but I meant out of the three possible selections.

I don't think anyone except an idiot would ever argue that controller is better than mouse and keyboard for FPS.
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Old 02-26-2005, 10:01 AM   #21
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god i hope all next gen consoles are smart enought to put usb ports on thier consoles, and give you the option of having mouse and keyboard support for games. games like RTS's and FPS's and ones like the Sims and Sim City would REALLY benifit from this.
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Old 02-26-2005, 10:26 AM   #22
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god i hope all next gen consoles are smart enought to put usb ports on thier consoles, and give you the option of having mouse and keyboard support for games. games like RTS's and FPS's and ones like the Sims and Sim City would REALLY benifit from this.
i think that would kinda defeat the purpose of their controllers then...people wouldn't buy any, they would just use their keyboard & mouse.


as for the design on the PS controller, i find it very comfortable out of the 3 consoles. like Null said, the sticks are placed perfectly and the L & R buttons are also in a good position...i don't find any problems with it at all.
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Old 03-10-2005, 01:14 PM   #23
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looks a tad strange to me. for some reason, the "pedals" look like they'd snap in a second.
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Old 03-10-2005, 01:22 PM   #24
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Thats probably not a real design of it... considering it's dated back in 2002.... redesigns and re-conceptualism could have occurred since then.

And like I said.... The ps2 controller and the gamecube controller are the same thing besides the switch of the Dpad and the Analog stick...... I find it hard to believe that some people would find the ps2 controller awkward and the gamecube controller comfortable..... it's pointless to say that one or the other is comfortable or not.

The one thing I find awkward is the Gamecube's button placement....

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As opposed to Xbox's and PS2's ergonomic

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button placement.... ehh I dun like how theres no consistent layout to the Gamecube's controller.... 2 angled thin buttons in a weird place... one big button and one smaller very neglected button whose jealous of button A.....lol
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Old 03-10-2005, 01:29 PM   #25
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i think that would kinda defeat the purpose of their controllers then...people wouldn't buy any, they would just use their keyboard & mouse.

What exactly IS the purpose of a controller then? Because your saying, giving people a better control for certain game types, and a control setup they'd like better defeats the whole purpose of a controller. Sounds like your saying the purpose of a controller is to suck.


It should allow the user to select the best way to control possible for that certain game. i play mario, i want a controller with a analog stick. But i play Counter-Strike, i want my keyboard and mouse. Should be absolutly no reason why they shouldnt let you do that. sides, most console users are very ignorant when it comes to controls and wont let anything be considered better then a controller in thier minds.
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Old 03-10-2005, 01:46 PM   #26
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i manufactured this just now in photoshop.....you'll see what I'm saying...

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Old 03-10-2005, 04:36 PM   #27
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What exactly IS the purpose of a controller then? Because your saying, giving people a better control for certain game types, and a control setup they'd like better defeats the whole purpose of a controller. Sounds like your saying the purpose of a controller is to suck.


It should allow the user to select the best way to control possible for that certain game. i play mario, i want a controller with a analog stick. But i play Counter-Strike, i want my keyboard and mouse. Should be absolutly no reason why they shouldnt let you do that. sides, most console users are very ignorant when it comes to controls and wont let anything be considered better then a controller in thier minds.
what i meant was, it wouldn't be worth it for the companies because nobody would buy their controllers, and instead use they keyboard/mouse they have for their PC...at least that's what i would do.

what i said had nothing to do with comfort of play and what-not

sorry for the confusion, i shoulda specified.
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Old 03-10-2005, 04:38 PM   #28
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Well, what Null is saying is that now all games would be best played on Keyboard and Mouse... so it would be worth making keyboard and mouse support for the games that DO play best with it.

Games like racing games, and RPG's I like best on a controller.
FPS def on Mouse/Key
SIMS on Mouse/Key
Any cursor related activity.

But we would still need a controller
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Old 03-10-2005, 04:40 PM   #29
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what i meant was, it wouldn't be worth it for the companies because nobody would buy their controllers, and instead use they keyboard/mouse they have for their PC...at least that's what i would do.

what i said had nothing to do with comfort of play and what-not

sorry for the confusion, i shoulda specified.
yea but companies honestly dont make much at all off thier controllers anyway, the market is already flooded with 3rd party controllers for thier consoles

they would make just as much by making a Sony (nintendo, or ms) brand keyboard and mouse and selling that.

the people who want only brandname stuff are still going to buy that same as if it were a controller.

i really dont think controller sales are an issue for that at all.
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Old 03-10-2005, 07:47 PM   #30
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/me shrugs

well shows how much i know...
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