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Old 01-19-2002, 09:40 PM   #16
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I've read other reviews of bhd and it sounds pretty crappy. I'll be straying away from it.

But THE COEN BROTHERS ARE THE BEST.
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Old 01-19-2002, 10:00 PM   #17
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The people that review it are dumbasses. They know jack-**** about what happened in Mog, and all they really judge is the amount of violence and lack of character building.

I guess they expect war to be prettier. Hell, a lot of stuff wasn't even in there. The numerous times the Somali men hid behind women holding baby children and the Rangers were forced to shoot them all. The times they tried hiding behind a cow, and then the UH-60 ripped it apart.

Hell, even the IGN Film Force reviewer gave a link to background information and still couldn't get the story right.
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Old 01-19-2002, 10:05 PM   #18
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"I didn't take boomerang shrapnel to my head just to blah blah blah"...

Gekko kinda sounds like the crazy soldier dudes that the GTA3 guys made fun of in err... GTA3... only Gekko's only 16 and hasn't actually been in a war... He's just interested in it err... a little too much...

I mean uhhh... *runs away*
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Old 01-19-2002, 10:10 PM   #19
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No one on these forums has been in a war. Am I interested in it? Ya, sue me.

And I haven't played GTA3 yet. Care to explain?
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I was bored, so I decided to revive some old threads.....
Old 09-21-2002, 07:47 AM   #20
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Default I was bored, so I decided to revive some old threads.....

Do you honestly think that Black Hawk Down is "the best god damn movie ever made"? If so, then (this may sound odd) you should start watching more movies. Personally I found it to be rather boring. There was some dialogue at the beginning, but within about ten minutes, it just turned into a big war scene that lasted for the rest of the movie. That's actually how most newer war films are (That's why I'm not a big fan of them). Anyway, I thought that the acting was bad; The direction was so-so; And the cinematography just wasn't too impressive. I wasn't expecting that much from it, though. I've never been a big Ridley Scott fan. I just don't think that he has the ability to tell a story in an interesting way. So sue me. By the way, Gekko, you sound just like my uncle, who I was watching the movie with. He's a crazed postal worker who, for whatever reason, is really "interested" in wars and whatnot. He wouldn't shut up during the movie (Like I really minded). He kept saying crap like "Yeah, all this **** happened because of Clinton (He's one of those "serious" "Republicans")! If he didn't ***** foot around this **** and send more troops in, none of this god damn **** would have happened!" Man, that guy is annoying.
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Old 09-21-2002, 09:20 AM   #21
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i saw both Black Hawk Down and Behind Enemy Lines, i like both of them, though black hawk down has it's boring moments, unlike behind enemy lines, there is always something happening.

but i likes both of them.
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Old 09-21-2002, 10:07 AM   #22
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I agree with what Bob said. Black Hawk Down was one steaming piece of horse poo.
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Old 09-21-2002, 12:31 PM   #23
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Do I honestly think BHD is the best movie ever made? No, Full Metal Jacket is. But BHD is up there, and the thread was supposed to get you all to go see it, but question it's it's really the best, or second best movie out.

BHD isn't supposed to be a ****ing love story. It's about a mission gone to ****s and the way they were able to deal with the situation and make it out. Where do you expect to throw words into that? They breifly explained the background, they explained the mission, and showed what happened, and then the rest of the battle, before they finally made it home. Although, not all of it was accurate, but it's a Hollywood film, not a documentary. If you want the whole story, read the book.

And ya, Clinton sucks ass. We sent guys in to stop Aidid, and then once 18 people died trying to stop this guy, he decided to pull us out and let Aidid remain in power. Basically these guys died for nothing.
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Old 09-21-2002, 12:48 PM   #24
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Was I expecting a love story? No (I wouldn't want one). I was at least expecting...something. That's the movie's problem: It has no substance whatsoever. It was almost as bad as Saving Private Ryan. And, by the way, please, please don't compare Black Hawk Down to Full Metal Jacket. That's like comparing 007 Racing to Chrono Trigger. Full Metal Jacket was a great movie (Definitely not one of my favorites, though). It had just the right balance between story and action. And, c'mon, it was a Stanley Kubrick picture, after all. The direction was great and the cinematography was just as good (Gotta love those tracking shots that Kubrick uses). The acting wasn't bad either. Though I think the guy who played the drill instructor (Dammit, why can't I remember his name right now ) outshone every other actor in the film.
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Old 09-21-2002, 03:25 PM   #25
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I didn't compare ****. And his name is R. Lee Ermey, and the reason he outshone the rest of the group is because GySgt Ermey actually was a DI on Parris Island, until he had to leave the Marine Corps due to some injury he got in Vietnam. He got the role while trying to teach an actor how to do it. He started screaming at his recruits for 15 minutes never repeating a line once, then they just decided to have Ermey do it. It's not too hard for a former DI to play a DI.
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Old 09-21-2002, 05:48 PM   #26
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The reason why Black Hawk Down was a 2 hour fighting scene is because it was a true story, and thats what happened. Now you could create some fake drama or what have you, but then that would be unthruthful.

BHD = Great Movie
Behind Enemy Lines = Steaming pile of crap
The Green Mile = Is that even a war movie?
Coen Brothers = Greatest directing duo of all time.

Best movie ever = Citizen Kane (Great movie plus it changed the way that movies were made for all time)

My Favorite Movie = Miller's Crossing (Coen brother's fild to boot)
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Old 09-21-2002, 08:03 PM   #27
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Black Hawk Down is a great movie...it's not the type of movie to have a hollywood type plot, or characters, or any of that crap...it's a movie about what happened in WAR. And I really liked it.

I liked Saving Private Ryan more tho...

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Old 09-22-2002, 12:25 AM   #28
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Black Hawk Down was poorly directed?

Listen here for a second. That movie often had four storylines all going on at once. And they weren't the same four storylines throughout. And everybody was confused, barely knew what was going on.

On top of that, it was the story of hundreds of people fighting thousands of people all across the area of an entire city. And the nature of the fight was that it was important to know where everyone was in relation to each other.

Yet, Ridley Scott managed to convey this story in such a way that the audience more or less knows what's going on at all times. That is not a feat to be sneered at. And oh yeah, it was also pretty realistic. At least that's what soldiers say. I wouldn't know.

Bob, you say you were expecting "something" in the movie. Well, here's something that the movie offers:

"A modern urban battle looks like this. One particular modern urban battle looked like this."

Not good enough? How about the line spoken towards the end: "It's just about the man next to you." I think the movie makes the point pretty well. I'll bet you weren't thinking about politics for most of the movie.

You can like it or not like it. That's your prerogative. But to say that it was poorly directed or didn't have any substance is to not think about it adequately.
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Old 09-23-2002, 01:29 PM   #29
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I still don't think it's a patch of Full Metal Jacket though...

But then war movies (based on true stories or not) tend to suck badly anyway. They tend to be horribly biased, which I consider to be a bad thing.

Take "The Longest Day" for example. Classic 3 1/4 hour war film about the D-Day invasions, dubbed "how the Americans won the war for us". How much mention does it make of all the british and french resistance intelligence work? Not an awful lot.

How much does it make the Nazi's look like a poorly organised and evil rabble? Quite a bit.

Sigh.
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Old 09-23-2002, 01:56 PM   #30
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I still don't think it's a patch of Full Metal Jacket though...

But then war movies (based on true stories or not) tend to suck badly anyway. They tend to be horribly biased, which I consider to be a bad thing.

Take "The Longest Day" for example. Classic 3 1/4 hour war film about the D-Day invasions, dubbed "how the Americans won the war for us". How much mention does it make of all the british and french resistance intelligence work? Not an awful lot.

How much does it make the Nazi's look like a poorly organised and evil rabble? Quite a bit.

Sigh.
Agreed, then again, as you said, there was Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, and also a film called The Thin Red Line .

Stangler, you hit the nail right on the head, Citizen Kane was one the most influential movies of all time, in terms of setting standards.

I have too many favourite films, it's impossible to say just one favourite!

Here are some :

Good Fellas
The Shawshank Redemption
Scarface
Raging Bull
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket
God Father 1/2
Millers Crossing
Minority Reports
Misery


Ah this is impossible... That and all the other hundreds of great movies I have in my collection .
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