Bonds used steriods

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by Joeiss

Incorrect. MLB holds "random" drug tests. However, the randomness is hardly random at all, usually the tests are done during the preseason and the preseason only. But, I think Bonds tested negative on a test during September one year, but I forget.

Correct, althogh you failed to mention that MLB just started doing this testing for the 2003 season I believe. They didnt test at all before that.

[KillerGremlin]

I think it will be more interesting to see how the news of steroid use affects the playing of Bonds and Giambi.

After Sosa's corked-bat "incident" happened, he lost all ability to hit anything but air.

[GameKinG]

Well, I have never liked Bonds, but he doesn't to have a footnote placed by his record. Even Babe used a cork bat sometimes.

Then again, corked bats might not have been against the rules back then. Im not sure.

[KillerGremlin]

It's funny, because a corked bat does very little in helping you hit the ball.

You would have much more success if you found a way to make contact with the ball longer, because as everyone should know, the longer the ball and the bat remain in contact the farther the ball will go, with not nearly as much emphasis on the bat's weight.

[Joeiss]

Originally Posted by Jason1

Correct, althogh you failed to mention that MLB just started doing this testing for the 2003 season I believe. They didnt test at all before that.

My bad, thanks for the info. I was unaware of that. However, in Bond's testimony, I believe he said he took the clear cream in either 2002 or 2003, so the test should have cought it anyways.

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I think it will be more interesting to see how the news of steroid use affects the playing of Bonds and Giambi.

After Sosa's corked-bat "incident" happened, he lost all ability to hit anything but air.

The effects from the steroids on Giambi will definitely be seen. Why? Because he is now sick. You cannot play well when you are sick. Also, when Giambi was indicted, he lost 20-30 pounds. When Bonds was indicted, his weight stayed the same. I think this shows that Giambi is definitely more guilty than Bonds, if Bonds is even guilty at all.

Originally Posted by GameKinG

Well, I have never liked Bonds, but he doesn't to have a footnote placed by his record. Even Babe used a cork bat sometimes.

Then again, corked bats might not have been against the rules back then. Im not sure.

Back in the day, the balls were also corked. I believe it was refered to as "juiced" balls.

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

so?

Barry Bonds is a great baseball player. He's been able to hit the ball his entire life. Everyone knows that.

Over the past few years, he's been able to mis-hit the ball and have it fly 400 feet into the cove. OHHH!!!! That's where the 'performance enhancing drugs' kick in...

If one of us were to take the drugs, it wouldnt help our game much. We still wouldnt be able to hit a 95 mph fastball...but it certainly helps the guys who CAN connect.

Stu, steroids still won't have any effect on connecting with the ball, however; there is an advantage.

In a recent interview with ESPN.com, Hank Aaron describes the added advantage of recooperating, which steroids brings to those who use it.

From ESPN.com:

"The only person who can do that is the good Lord. But, at that age [40], you have to ask: Did he accomplish all of this by rejuvenating his strength from day to day with those substances? I know that when you reach a certain age, you just don't bounce back as quickly as you think you can when you're playing all of those games.


"Drugs won't help you hit the ball. But can they make you recuperate consistently enough to hit the kind of home runs that these guys are hitting?"


Aaron paused, sighed and added, "Let me say this. Any way you look at it, it's wrong."

So as you can see, steroids do nothing for hitting the ball, which I know that you know Stu, but I don't think many others realize this fact. But you are right that it brings an advantage, Stu. Bonds, if proven guilty, had the power of advanced recuperation on his side.

[GameKinG]

I heard this stat on the news earlier.

It was something like...before 2000, barry never hit a homer longer than 450 feet. Since then, he has hit 21 homers longer than that.