What religion are you? - Page 14

Classic Rocker · 09-28-2004, 03:15 PM

I'm Jewish Catholic..oh and I have one friend who is Muslim Catholic..

Ace195 · 09-28-2004, 04:00 PM

I'm not sure if I said already but I'm lutheran, I usted to attend a church called faith lutheran Until I stopped beileving in organized religion one day when politics were talked about in a surmon.. Politics have no place in a house of god

DimHalo · 09-28-2004, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic Rocker

I'm Jewish Catholic..oh and I have one friend who is Muslim Catholic..

This is me showing my lack of knowledge. But I've never heard of those. Could you explain please?

Kitana85 · 09-28-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace195

I'm not sure if I said already but I'm lutheran, I usted to attend a church called faith lutheran Until I stopped beileving in organized religion one day when politics were talked about in a surmon.. Politics have no place in a house of god

right... only, when you pay attention to the scriptures, Jesus was killed for political reasons, in his discourses with Pharasees, etc, their religion vs. his never came into play... HOW you vote, DIRECTLY correlates with the religious (read moral) implications of what you experience. The paster shouldn't tell you how to vote, or believe on an issue, but politics must come up sometimes, or often a sermon is not as well preached as it should (the words of a preacher are supposed to come after hours of prayer)

Canyarion · 09-28-2004, 04:55 PM

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This is me showing my lack of knowledge. But I've never heard of those. Could you explain please?

.... I kinda think he's just kidding.

And Ace, you're right, religion shouldn't interfere with politics. Jesus didn't do that, he even refused when they wanted to make him king.
of course I want to tell you that Jehovah's Witnesses are politicly neutral...

Typhoid · 09-28-2004, 05:00 PM

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of course I want to tell you that Jehovah's Witnesses are politicly neutral...

Phew....good thing you didnt.

What I dont see, is whats the big deal about Gay marriage? This may not be a religious thing, but i know Bush is a religious man, by his numerous "God Bless America" quotes, and im pretty sure in the bible it says something like "No man shall lay down with another man." Now, Im not gay, so this doesnt affect me at all, I just dont see how you can descriminate against someone, when they have no control over something. But then again, im getting into another issue now.

But is gay marriage illegal in the US because of religious reasons?

And to quote that funny video Dylflon posted "Who the f*** are you to turn your views into my laws?"

Canyarion · 09-28-2004, 05:18 PM

Well, politics shouldn't control decide for you in these matters. Only religion can, I think.

Yes, some people are born gays. But that doesn't always mean they can't enjoy a woman.
Even if they can't, they'll have to make sacrafices to receive God's favor.

Everybody is born with its own problems. Some have a severe handicap to deal with. Others lose their parents when they are young. It's your choice to 'obey' God or not.

Kitana85 · 09-28-2004, 06:23 PM

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And to quote that funny video Dylflon posted "Who the f*** are you to turn your views into my laws?"

With that I almost totally agree... Canyarian, you're just WRONG. What are you talking about Jesus never discussed politics? John 5 for starters, the law had become national law, Matthew 22:21, hate to break it to you, but he was NOT skirting the issue in the least, Even Matthew 27, and the corillating verses in the other gospels, they speak to a political assasination. Never is religion brought into the charges... remember, the Jews viewed themselves as their own nation (a case of the nation creating the state), when they say king of the jews, that is meant in a territorial manner... if Jesus is King, then the emperor is not. Etc, there are many more c:v's that can me cited...

I do agree with what Typhod quoted, in that your beliefs should make up my laws, however, they do have to come into play to some extend... why not murder, what honestly is wrong with it... why not steal (is it nothing but an uniformed version of redistribution of wealth)? most of these stigmas came from religious contexts... ESPECIALLY ADULTERY... Hey, the golden rule, even that has religous basis (actually in evey religion). Most laws are an extensions of the common morality, thus, some will come from personal beliefs, mainly because from where else will they stem??
However, in times such as this, and in general, it should be taken lightly... The amount of CHRISTIANITY in the government right now is a bit nausiating...and the same sex union ban based on the pres's religious beliefs, thats just dumb...

Canyarion · 09-28-2004, 07:22 PM

Jesus discussed some politics, he didn't interfere.

What does he say in Matthew 22:21? That you should obey the law, pay your taxes. He didn't try to lower the taxes or something!

And in those other cases, he had the right to change the laws of old, because he was going to give us new laws. But those 'laws' had to to with religion, not ruling the country. That was the 'job' of the Romans...

Bond · 09-28-2004, 08:37 PM

Please keep in mind most people are representing their own beliefs, and not really what any particular religion believes.

GT News · 09-28-2004, 08:37 PM

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Please keep in mind most people are representing their own beliefs, and not really what any particular religion believes.

Wow you are very polite.

Chat amongst yourselves.

Crash · 09-29-2004, 01:06 AM

this is karpal... dont tell me damn right.

you know damn right, jew kicked my dog

Typhoid · 09-29-2004, 07:57 PM

So, then some religious person here, please explain to me other religions. Like Buddhist, or Shintoist, or Muslim. If your God (Christian God) is "the one" Then why are these other religions following their false God?

An another note, how do you know your God isnt a false god? How can you tell which God is the God? How can you prove God exists? How can you prove there is a heaven and a hell? How can you prove Jesus did miracles?

Because it was in a book?

Ive read many a book about things. One was about a wooden puppet becoming a real boy. Alas, it was a fable.

And please, to whomever reply's to this, dont answer my questions with questions. And dont p*ssyfoot around my questions with bull**** filler.

Crono · 09-29-2004, 08:24 PM

1. The Muslim God is pretty much the same as the Chrstian God.
2. Buddhism has no God.

TheGame · 09-29-2004, 08:44 PM

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And please, to whomever reply's to this, dont answer my questions with questions. And dont p*ssyfoot around my questions with bull**** filler.

That's exactly what I'll try to do!

Typhoid... think of all the things in the world that you believe to be true, but that you didn't witness or test, for yourself. How do you know they are true?

TV?-You see false things on TV that never happend before, in movies.
Internet? Websites could easilly have false info.
Word of mouth? Could be lies.
Pictures? Can be edited and just as false as a movie.
A book?-We can leave that open up to you.

A good example of blind faith... your parents. How do you know they are your parents? Couldn't every shred of evidence you have be fake?

We chose to believe what we chose to believe. I mean, think about it... what IS truth? Only what we accept to be so.