The Walking Dead: The Television Series - Page 12

KillerGremlin · 11-15-2011, 05:49 PM

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Wow, Daryl really had a hard time trying to fall off that horse. Did anyone else notice hows unrealistic that looked? He basically stepped off it.

I guess you could say he didn't...

Reeve the horse.

Typhoid · 11-16-2011, 03:34 PM

"You can't fall off that horse!"

KillerGremlin · 11-21-2011, 04:22 AM

New episode is back-on-track good, A- TV good, "I could enjoy this series good."

So instead of bitching about the show, I'm gonna bitch about AMC.

After next week's episode, the show is going on a "mid-season" hiatus until February. Next week is the "mid-season finale." That is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever seen. All this is going to do is create a schism for viewers.

When February roles around, people are going to be back watching other TV shows.

Apparently this all has a bit to do with Frank Darabont being fired, and AMC slashing The Walking Dead's budget. I'm curious how you all feel about that....since most other cable TV shows role through the series without blue balling the fuck out of viewers.

Finally, episodes 6 and 7 were leaked so tonight's episode went as according to the leak. Don't read if you don't want 7 spoiled:

Sophia is a walker...in the barn...Rick kills her. Yeah.

Edit: I'm still waiting for that progressive, pro-abortion TV show. Juno flaked. Walking Dead flaked. Seems like Rick and Hershel have more in common than they think. Common sense says in a zombie apocalypse....never mind.

Teuthida · 11-21-2011, 07:23 AM

I do hate when they break up seasons (the last season of Doctor Who had a mid-season finale as well), but as you stated, they probably have reasons for it. At least it wasn't like Young Justice where I had to wait six months between episodes nine and ten...and there was no heads up either. And the alternative would have been a longer wait for this season to have begun. Look at Mad Men.

As for the show itself, I enjoyed the ep.

Professor S · 11-21-2011, 08:22 AM

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Edit: I'm still waiting for that progressive, pro-abortion TV show. Juno flaked. Walking Dead flaked.

Keep waiting for it, because I doubt it will ever happen. It's very hard for the majority of people to be "pro-abortion", because that implies an inherent value to the act. At the very best abortion destroys a potential life, and while this may be necessary at times, it's hardly something to celebrate or promote and most people would be very disturbed at the attempt.

As for "flaking", aborting a child in the face of a zombie apocalypse would be the worst thing you could do, because the continuation of life is the only hope against a world filled with death. If you abort a child in those situations it is the same as giving up completely. Might as well eat a bullet at that point.

Angrist · 11-21-2011, 09:32 AM

I thought the episode was frustrating and boring. Here's the 16-word summary: a bunch of secrets are discovered and people find new stupid ways to almost get killed.

The worst part is that they're still sitting in 1 place. I think in last season there were maybe 2 episodes in the same place, but now they've been in the same spot for almost the whole season.

I feel like the story so far could have been told in 3 episodes instead of 6.

BreakABone · 11-21-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrist

I thought the episode was frustrating and boring. Here's the 16-word summary: a bunch of secrets are discovered and people find new stupid ways to almost get killed.

The worst part is that they're still sitting in 1 place. I think in last season there were maybe 2 episodes in the same place, but now they've been in the same spot for almost the whole season.

I feel like the story so far could have been told in 3 episodes instead of 6.

Well, I think the second part is an odd complaint.
I mean the entire point of their "journey" is/was to find a safe haven. They've made it a point that a lot of people are settling into Hershel's farm because they are accustomed to living a relatively normal life again.

Fox 6 · 11-21-2011, 03:29 PM

The more I watch, the more Andrea annoys me. I'm at the point where I wouldn't care if she offed herself. I'm struggling to find a character that I enjoy watching and care what happens to them. Also the whole Sophia thing just bores me.

Typhoid · 11-21-2011, 04:09 PM

I liked the last episode. I like Shane's (hopeful) insanity. I hope his insanity soon leads to Andrea's death. I was really hoping he'd shoot her when he said "I've got a lead on the girl". The whole time I was just thinking "Pleeeease be is Otis."

I also didn't know there was a mid-season break. Autumn/Winter breaks in shows really piss me off, but I understand why they do it. I just want to watch my goddamn stories.

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I mean the entire point of their "journey" is/was to find a safe haven. They've made it a point that a lot of people are settling into Hershel's farm because they are accustomed to living a relatively normal life again.

100% agree. It's not a show about a group of people going on a journey. It's about a group of people trying to survive.

PS: Deep down I really don't think Shane is insane. I think he'll literally just do anything to keep Carl alive, is all.

Angrist · 11-21-2011, 05:39 PM

Oh, 1 more thing: Dale is getting on my nerves. I wonder if the actor isn't growing tired of playing the same scene over and over again, but with different actors.
Think about it: basically all he ever does is talk some courage into others. And it's always yadayadayada with that half troubled, half witless look on his face.
So who's the next character to have a conversation with the wannabe shrink?

KillerGremlin · 11-21-2011, 08:08 PM

Dale reminds me of like....Obi Won or something. I still think it was a miscast, but he has wisdom and seems to fit in as a guide. Ultimately, his passiveness will get the best of him in a clearly disturbed world.

Professor S · 11-21-2011, 08:22 PM

I think at this point everyone is trying to show their worth, and that's why Dale is trying to hard to play mechanic (in the beginning), peacemaker, psychologist, and philosopher. He's old, and he has to be thinking what his value is in such violent times. For the audience I believe he plays the role of the observer/audience. In a world gone mad, we see it through his eyes.

Rick the the leader, Shane is the enforcer, Daryl is the hunter, Glenn is the courier, the chick is the sharp shooter, Dale is the sage, Rick's wife is the village slut, and T-Dogg is the... he's the... um... the next victim (hopefully).

KillerGremlin · 11-21-2011, 08:49 PM

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I think at this point everyone is trying to show their worth, and that's why Dale is trying to hard to play mechanic (in the beginning), peacemaker, psychologist, and philosopher. He's old, and he has to be thinking what his value is in such violent times. For the audience I believe he plays the role of the observer/audience. In a world gone mad, we see it through his eyes.

Rick the the leader, Shane is the enforcer, Daryl is the hunter, Glenn is the courier, the chick is the sharp shooter, Dale is the sage, Rick's wife is the village slut, and T-Dogg is the... he's the... um... the next victim (hopefully).

Not just the metaphorical observer....but the observer of common sense!

I mean come on! Lori has been sneaking away to have private convos with Shane since season 1. It's obvious she is boning him. I think Dale was on to that. I think Dale knew about Shane and Andrea right away....I think Dale sees stuff that everyone else is too retarded to notice. Except for that damn herd in Episode 1, why'd ya let me down Dale, why!?

Even though some of his stuff seemed obvious in the last episode, I really think his dialog was some of the most human dialog we have seen on the show.

The scene with Dale confronting Shane? That was BY FAR one of the best dialogs on the show so far. It felt real. Human. Like it wasn't written by George Lucas the Second, aka Kirkman and his writing team of monkeys.

If the show continues to improve like this it will be stellar stuff as it moves forward.

Even the Rick and Lori confrontation was much better done than past exchanges of forced dialog. The Rick and Lori exchanges regarding Carl were terrible. Shane and Rick's exchange last episode made me want to throw a remote at the writer's head. But this newest episode? Rick sounded like a normal fucking human.

I know people very well, and for the first time since Season 1 Episode 1, they've been getting the dialog right.

Edit: they even got some humorous dialog out of Glenn! And it was organic and didn't feel forced! I mean....I swear...it's like they hired a whole new team of dialog writers for the most recent episode.

Typhoid · 11-21-2011, 09:01 PM

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The scene with Dale confronting Shane? That was BY FAR one of the best dialogs on the show so far. It felt real.

I think that was one of the best moments in the show so far.

I agree that the last episode seemed a lot more human than the other recent episodes.

I fall back to my theory of why the writing style/acting consistency changes wildly; the creator of the show has some handjobs to pay off [for getting the show] so he's giving episode-writing-jobs and directing-jobs to friends, and friends of friends. So maybe now they've rifled through the shitty directors/writers that were owed favours, and are on to some people who are doing it for a job. Hopefully.

Angrist · 11-29-2011, 02:37 AM

Good episode. Oh, what did you think of the Portal reference? It's nice they try something like that, but in this case it didn't make sense.

What I was wondering about with Sophia is why the farm people didn't mention her to the group. They knew they were looking for a small girl.. well hey, they caught a small zombie girl the day before! If Hershel wanted them off the farm, why did he give them time to search for Sophia?
Also, a lot of farm equipment/people was used to search for her.