Space Madness Round 1 - Strange Transmission - Page 11

Vampyr · 06-25-2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid

You're trying to twist it as if we're protecting Swan.
We're not.
You can say "You sound like you're protecting him" or "Seems like you care about him" to all of us as much as you want to win over your followers.

But like you said, you picked him at random.
So we both know, and we all know - it has nothing to do with it being Swan.
But I await your "It sounds like you're backing Swan really fast" post in return to this one.
You don't know if he's a crazy or not.
You just want to randomly kill someone, and want to see who follows you.
We want to stop you from randomly killing anyone.

The reason now, we're not going after people who aren't playing, is because we have a reason to actually vote for someone now.
The reason of an attempt at blatent manipulation.

You sound like you're trying to be manipulative, actually. You're voting for one of the most active people in the game at the moment, a person who I know isn't crazy. It seems odd you would go from voting for the least active person to possibly the most active person, unless that active person is seriously onto whatever you're up to, and endangering your plans.

I'm not being manipulative, all I did was present a plan, one with some logic behind it (or as much logic as is possible under the circumstances). I presented a -reason- for doing it, it was up to everyone else if they wanted to follow this plan or not.

I have not contacted anyone outside of the messages I've posted in this thread, everyone here knows that. I haven't sent conniving PM's trying to sway people to my side, I just presented a plan and let it be.

Now suddenly, when people start following the plan I presented, you and a few others jump all over -me- for being manipulative.

Edit:
@Jeepnut: I actually spoke out against voting Germy off in the post right before yours, when I switched from you to Uber, and you did the same. We had similar reasoning at that point. I would have remained perfectly healthy if I had just remained with the banddwagon, but the sudden shift of votes seemed way to suspicious to me.

Fyacin · 06-25-2008, 10:59 PM

So, erm. Have any of you mates considered that acting like a homicidal mob is probably exactly what these crazies want us to do?

!Clarification Do we have to kill someone?

flunkie44 · 06-25-2008, 11:00 PM

jeepnut · 06-25-2008, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyacin

So, erm. Have any of you mates considered that acting like a homicidal mob is probably exactly what these crazies want us to do?

!Clarification Do we have to kill someone?

Yes, we have to kill someone.

Vampyr · 06-25-2008, 11:05 PM

Well, we'll see how this goes over night. I'm off to bed, will probably be back on around 7:30 or 8 AM tomorrow.

uber_paddler · 06-25-2008, 11:08 PM

Ok, this clusterfuck is not conducive to decision-making, so !retract Swan.

manasecret · 06-25-2008, 11:28 PM

Remember the lesson from the last game, my good men. It was the Others who kept quiet and didn't theorize much at all. The Innocents, on the other hand, theorized left and right trying to figure out who the Others were. Theorizing a lot makes you look suspicious, and so we ended up voting off Innocents who were suspicious only because they said a lot. It was a few rounds in before we figured out that the ones saying the most were probably innocent.

Perhaps the crazies know that, and have thus switched their strategy to fool everyone. They certainly know it now that I said it. But I still think it makes more sense to try to go along and be noticed as little as possible.

More than anything else, however, I am intrigued by the mechanics of this game. Not knowing the state of sanity of those we vote off puts the Sanes at a disadvantage. Thus, in order to even it out for the Sanes, the Crazies would also have to have some kind of disadvantage.

My question is, what is the Crazies' disadvantage?

Seems like the most likely possibility, considering Sir Dylflon's reluctance to clarify it, is that the Crazies don't know who the other Crazies are, as the Others did in the last game.

I also believe Sir Dylflon said something along those lines when he first wrote about this new game at the end of the last game.

flunkie44 · 06-25-2008, 11:31 PM

!retract Swan

I was just trying to look cool since everyone seemed to be doing it.

jeepnut · 06-25-2008, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manasecret

Remember the lesson from the last game, my good men. It was the Others who kept quiet and didn't theorize much at all. The Innocents, on the other hand, theorized left and right trying to figure out who the Others were. Theorizing a lot makes you look suspicious, and so we ended up voting off Innocents who were suspicious only because they said a lot. It was a few rounds in before we figured out that the ones saying the most were probably innocent.

Perhaps the crazies know that, and have thus switched their strategy to fool everyone. They certainly know it now that I said it. But I still think it makes more sense to try to go along and be noticed as little as possible.

More than anything else, however, I am intrigued by the mechanics of this game. Not knowing the state of sanity of those we vote off puts the Sanes at a disadvantage. Thus, in order to even it out for the Sanes, the Crazies would also have to have some kind of disadvantage.

My question is, what is the Crazies' disadvantage?

Seems like the most likely possibility, considering Sir Dylflon's reluctance to clarify it, is that the Crazies don't know who the other Crazies are, as the Others did in the last game.

I also believe Sir Dylflon said something along those lines when he first wrote about this new game at the end of the last game.

The crazies disadvantage may also be numbers. Maybe there are a lot fewer of them this round.

Also, speaking as an Other from the previous game, I can confirm your assessment of our strategy. Honestly, the more active people stick in your mind, so you think to vote for them. It behooves the bad guys to remain as unnoticed as possible so that people look them over. That was my goal. The innocents on the other hand are trying to anyway possible to rationalize their movements to the others so as to not draw ire.

flunkie44 · 06-25-2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut

The crazies disadvantage may also be numbers. Maybe there are a lot fewer of them this round.

How would you know?

Jeepnut's crazy confirmed.

The Germanator · 06-26-2008, 01:51 AM

This game of Mafia is brilliant! As of today I was positive the crazies were going to vote me off, but I have been redeemed by many pages of interesting reasoning. Thank you. You made the right choice.

Sincerely,

Captain Germanator.

Angrist · 06-26-2008, 03:46 AM

Ok, here's everybody's post count in this thread:

Fyacin 22
jeepnut 22
Vampyr 16
Typhoid 15
Dyne 10
manasecret 10
flunkie44 9
Angrist 9
Swan 8
Dylflon 6
The Germanator 5
uber_paddler 5
Combine 017 5
Yoda9864 4
Bube 4
thatmariolover 3
Teuthida 3
GameMaster 2
Professor S 2
Aladuf 2

Maybe the madmen are trying a different strategy this round, by being very active (I think that's what happened in the first game, The Thing). But still, if you're suspicious, it's scary to come out of your shell.
We'll see.

I'm really wondering how this will work out.

Combine 017 · 06-26-2008, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan

This is what Vampyr wants. It is what he does.

He manipulates you. He controls you while making it seems like you have a choice. Fight back my friends

He didnt control me. I made my post against you before I even looked back at other peoples comments. You attacked me with a quote from somebody else, dont think that retracting your vote from me will save you from your own incompetence. The fact is that you've incurred the wrath of the Combine Overwatch. The best you can do now is hope for death.

Bube · 06-26-2008, 05:50 AM

I think Vampyr's lying. I hope to have more on this subject before the deadline.

Vampyr · 06-26-2008, 06:34 AM

If everyone agrees that the innocent people are usually the most active, then why the deuce is everyone piling on me for? I hope to not be voted out this round, as I'm enjoying the game and it gives me something fun to do at work, but if I am at least I can come back in the end and be like "haha, told you so."

Really, you think "Vampyr's lying". Lying about what?! I haven't said anything to be lying about! All you saw was Tyhpoid saying I was being manipulative, and then went with that. All I did was put forth a plan, "Pick a random person to vote for, and see if it gets a reaction." Which we did, and it did. I haven't made any -statements- to be considered, lying, though.

All I did was post a plan and a suggestion as to what it might mean.

But if you read through the posts, it becomes very clear that if I were a crazy, I would have nothing to gain from saying what I said. No one came to my defense when votes started shifting towards me, they just said things like "Eh, Vampyr might be acting suspicious." If I were a crazy, where are all my friends to help bail me out of this? I think everyone who was following my plan of casting a vote for Swan has pretty much retracted anyway.

And it's true that the crazies might not know who each other are, but the game is called MAFIA, one group has to be the Mafia. It would sort of kill the idea of the game if that group didn't know who each other was.