Your Religion!

[mickydaniels]

Originally Posted by Ranzid

I would say that I'm Atheist, but I don't deny completely that there is maybe something out there. But it's certainly not what traditional religions think it is... I'm pretty sure there is no greater power, but there is so many unanswered questions that we can't deny that possibility.

This is what I actually was referring to, since I guess many just read the last post.

Originally Posted by jeepnut

Heck, I'm sure there are many Atheists out there that are a lot better people than many Christians I know, including myself.

I already know that, and to me it's almost a shame. I don't actually see the Bible as the way a religion should be, but instead the instruction manual for life. Like the numerous times he would be angry at his own chosen people the Jews, who did all the sacrifices and festivals, but were not leading moral lives.

I once heard that it is more moral to do something because it is right instead of because someone stronger than you told you to do so.

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

I dont understand why anyone would be Aetheist. If you would pick a religon, read its religous teachings, have faith and believe in the mercy of its God, then when you die, you have a chance. You have a chance for something better. If you were wrong, and the religon was a much of lies and crap, than what happens? You lay in the ground and rot. With the path you have chosen, thats all you have. Thats the only thing you have to look forward too, you dont even have a chance.

Ah yes, Pascal's Wager. The problem with it is choosing which religion to believe in. Why exactly is it that picking a religion equates to having "faith and believe in the mercy of its God?" Not all religions have a God that's supposed to be merciful. In fact, not all religions have a God.

Besides, you can't exactly just wake up in the morning and say, "Hey, I should be religious so I have a chance for something better. I didn't believe in God before, but I'm going to start believing now."

Originally Posted by mickydaniels

So then, you're not an atheist. You're an agnostic.

I don't get it. I don't see anything in your definition of the word "agnostic" that says an agnostic is someone who, among other things, tries to be a good person as much as possible. Are you saying that if someone is atheist, he can't possibly be making every effort to be good?

With all due respect, I think that's absurd.

I'd say more, but I'm really not sure you've thought through exactly what you're trying to say. If you could clarify more, I'd be happy to discuss my point of view.

By the way, I'm a Buddhist, and I'm also Atheist in the sense that I don't think there is a God. The two are not incompatible.

[Stonecutter]

This here is the withstandinator, it can take a six megaton blast, no more, no less.


/me hops in.

[WiseMan]

People should not believe in god they should just have a good idea.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by WiseMan

People should not believe in god they should just have a good idea.

Yeah, but then according to most Christian beliefs, you are an unbeliever and will suffer the torments of H-E double hockey sticks.

[Ginkasa]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

Yeah, but then according to most Christian beliefs, you are an unbeliever and will suffer the torments of H-E double hockey sticks.

Don't soften it for him.

Better:


You don't believe in God and you're going to hell.


Much better.


*shrugs and walks away*

[Rndm_Perfection]

Originally Posted by Ginkasa

Don't soften it for him.

Better:


You don't believe in God and you're going to hell.


Much better.


*shrugs and walks away*

Yep, that'd be your guess ¦¬Þ

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Ginkasa

Don't soften it for him.

Better:


You don't believe in God and you're going to hell.


Much better.


*shrugs and walks away*

No, according to you he's going to Hell. If he has modern Christian beliefs, even he should now that he's going to Hell according to the teachings he is supposed to follow. If he is Orthodox he isn't going to Hell because there is no Hell.

Me? I'm not even Christian and I have different set of beliefs than most people.

[Bond]

Well, for the record most Catholic churches are now defining Hell as, and I quote: "the state of eternal separation from God." Although this is not to imply that I am Catholic, because I'm not.

"The greatest proof that there is a God is our mind."