Thanks for splintering the spoiler / ending talk, BaB.
From what I've played so far, ME3 is a bigger and better game than ME2 or ME. It also has the inclusion of a good (certainly not great) multiplayer mode.
The whole ordeal over this DLC character strikes me as rather silly. I didn't buy the DLC and have no intention of doing so. From what I've read, the DLC character is not intricate to the main story at all, certainly not necessary, and I don't feel like I've been screwed over by my purchase (conversely, shouldn't those who buy absolutely shitty games for $60 be in constant rage?).
The bottom line is that ME3 and it's approach to DLC will succeed or fail via the marketplace. Let's see how the sales numbers compare to ME1 and ME2, and then we can have a conversation as to if the "DLC Debacle" had any effect.
Thanks for splintering the spoiler / ending talk, BaB.
From what I've played so far, ME3 is a bigger and better game than ME2 or ME. It also has the inclusion of a good (certainly not great) multiplayer mode.
The whole ordeal over this DLC character strikes me as rather silly. I didn't buy the DLC and have no intention of doing so. From what I've read, the DLC character is not intricate to the main story at all, certainly not necessary, and I don't feel like I've been screwed over by my purchase (conversely, shouldn't those who buy absolutely shitty games for $60 be in constant rage?).
The bottom line is that ME3 and it's approach to DLC will succeed or fail via the marketplace. Let's see how the sales numbers compare to ME1 and ME2, and then we can have a conversation as to if the "DLC Debacle" had any effect.
I've heard the exact opposite about the DLC, the people who have played it say they can't imagine the game without that component of the story.
@Fox6: I think I've been pretty careful with my wording and haven't made any assertions about the quality of Mass Effect 3, just been posting links to videos and articles about the subject, and making my own interpretations based on that.
That being said, my wife couldn't hold out any more and bought Mass Effect 3 today. -_- So I guess I'll be playing it, because why not at this point.
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That being said, my wife couldn't hold out any more and bought Mass Effect 3 today. -_- So I guess I'll be playing it, because why not at this point.
Dont forget to get the DLC...
But no, the DLC is not necessary to the story of ME3, its just there to show some Prothean history and add more Mass Effect lore. I think its mainly for hardcore Mass Effect fans, but its still BS the way they went about dealing with it. Another thing that I dont think has been mentioned at all is that the DLC also comes with a very powerful Prothean assault rifle, if that makes it worth a little more to anyone.
But no, the DLC is not necessary to the story of ME3, its just there to show some Prothean history and add more Mass Effect lore. I think its mainly for hardcore Mass Effect fans, but its still BS the way they went about dealing with it. Another thing that I dont think has been mentioned at all is that the DLC also comes with a very powerful Prothean assault rifle, if that makes it worth a little more to anyone.
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Yes, but thats been mentioned before, the gun had not been.
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1 was created before the game came out dealing with a completely different discussion
And the second was something Bond asked for.. so people who wanted to discuss the ending could without spoiling it for the rest
Two very different discussions.
And yet I think all of them have mention about the DLC.
Ya, sorry for the confusion ... I was just afraid to keep reading this thread after I saw a few allusions to spoilers. Definitely looking forward to talking about the ending after I beat the game though.
Okay, okay. I just saw the picture of Tali without her helmet that is used in the game.
This has been my biggest WTF moment so far. It's just some random stock photo that they spent a few minutes photoshopping. Are you kidding me? Why does she have finger nail polish on?
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Okay, okay. I just saw the picture of Tali without her helmet that is used in the game.
This has been my biggest WTF moment so far. It's just some random stock photo that they spent a few minutes photoshopping. Are you kidding me? Why does she have finger nail polish on?
Didnt you know? The Quarians are widely known throughout the galaxy for their large variety of nail polishes.
Ya its pretty stupid. On the plus side, they are coming out with a new ending soooo...
What would you have preferred? Her to have a giant sucker mouth, and beady spider eyes?
They've always alluded to Quarians being very human-like - and in every reflection you can see into their visors they have very human-like features and facial configuration.
Plus you can bang Tali in ME2, and Shep doesn't bang ugly broads with creepy alien features.
Nomatter what they made Tali/Quarians look like, some fans were bound to go "aww, what the fuck. She looks too human/too alien/nothing like I had hoped or expected or wanted."
They could have released a picture of Alf, and someone would be like "Aw, yeah. This universe needs more Wookie-like creatures. I didn't see that coming!" and someone else would say "This was the dumbest thing ever. They put no time into it. Everyone knows satisfaction equates from differences you work on in hours of photoshop and character modelling."
(I actually saw almost that exact comment on some mega-fan forum when I was searching up what Quarians looked like a few weeks ago. )
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It seems sort of funny to me that everyone is complaining about the ending of the game. (I literally mean everyone, with all that petitioning shit and whatnot)
It's not your game. Sure, you paid for it and spent your time playing it - but they spent the time making it, it's their creation which they (apparently) had future plans for - which is why they had holes in the ending cutscenes/story. They were leaving themselves openings for future DLC in order to be able to keep the game relevant - according to quotes I've read by the 'creators' of the game.
Complaining about the ending is one thing. Fuck, I've got no problem with that. If it sucks, it sucks. If you don't like it, tough balls for whoever made the game and wrote the story. What I'm hung up on is just all the people demanding a new ending. I hope whoever grades those kids' papers refuse to mark their next essay and publicly calls them out until they re-write the ending of it because the teachers have all decided that kids' story sucks and his writing ability is vastly sub-par.
I say 'kids' because something as immature as asking a storywriter to rewrite a story because it made you unhappy/displeased seems so childish.
"Mommy, why'd Bambi die?"
"I'm not sure, honey. That seemed awfully sad. I'll call up the studio and start a petition to see if we can get them to make a more satisfying ending where everyone lives, and everyones dreams are fulfilled, and they all become millionaires."
Hell, I should petition for a different ending to Red Dead Redemption. I didn't know I as a consumer could (after purchase) tell the creator of the story of the book/game/movie I'm reading/playing/watching that the studio who signed off on the project and saw through every stage of it's development was wrong, and the story too, was in fact wrong. Hell, the main character gets shot and dies before the end of the game. That wasn't fun. I wanted to keep playing as him. And what was with the man in the black suit? Was he the devil? I want answers, damnit. How dare they have creative freedom over their own story, especially if it interferes with my enjoyment.
Remember back in the day when you didn't like a game, and it was simply:
"I don't like the direction they took _______, because I thought it would be so much better when I was imagining the possibilities of the story. I guess I just don't like this game as much anymore, or maybe I just built it up too much in my own mind"
and not:
"I don't like the direction they took ______, because I thought it would be so much better when I was imagining the possibilities of the story. I guess it's time to petition those dicks and make them change the game they spent so much time lovingly creating for my enjoyment so I can then enjoy it how I was imagining rather than move on to something else like an adult would."
"Oh, Schindler's List wasn't that good. Let's tell them to re-write the movie with a happier tone. Maybe a comedy this time. Something I can watch with the kids. It was too dark. Too much sadness. Too many people died."
This will start a dangerous slope of a petition being formed every time there is a large number of like-minded individuals (which there always will be thanks to the internet) who thinks the ________ (plot point) of ________(game) was _________(adjective) and demand a new _______ (plot point) for ______ (game).
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Edit: It's not really like I was (trying to) disagree with anything. Since it seems so silly to me I was trying to pry into why "They didnt spend a lot of time on this photograph of this character" is such a big deal considering the character would have looked relatively the same because I doubt when they make the characters they just do it on the fly. They probably agree on the features beforehand, and then go and make it.
I see where youre coming from. Complaining about it seems trivial, but im arguing as a fan, and as a fan I expected better.
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K, might just be me but, when Shepard is leaving Earth for the first time looking at the child, why does the Normandy just sort of chill there for a while? Its like "Shepard, we gotta leave, NOW! No hang on, I want to watch what happens to this kid. Just gimme like, 2 mins tops." Its cock balls retarded. Sure Clint Mansell makes some epic music for the scene, but when doesnt he? I just think its a stupid moment and was way too long.
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