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Old 11-18-2011, 04:04 PM   #1
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What is your source for THIS information, because it differs drastically from reality.
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Ocarina of Time was released to universal acclaim and commercial success. In 1998, it sold 2.5 million copies despite being released only 39 days before the end of the year. In Japan, it sold 820,000 copies in 1998, becoming the tenth-best-selling game of that year. During its lifetime, Ocarina of Time sold 1.14 million copies in Japan, becoming the 134th-best-selling game of all time, and sold 7.6 million copies worldwide. On its initial N64 release, Ocarina of Time received perfect review scores from gaming publications such as Famitsu, Edge, Electronic Gaming Monthly, GameSpot, and IGN. As of September 2011, the review aggregator websites Game Rankings and Metacritic both rank the original Nintendo 64 version as the highest reviewed game of all time, with average scores of 97.48% from Game Rankings and 99/100 from Metacritic. The reviews praised multiple aspects of the game, particularly its level design, gameplay mechanics and sound. Former GameSpot reviewer Jeff Gerstmann wrote that Ocarina of Time is "a game that can't be called anything other than flawless", and IGN called it "the new benchmark for interactive entertainment" that could "shape the action RPG genre for years to come". GameTrailers' editors called it a "walking patent office" due to the number of features that became "industry standard". After publication, Ocarina of Time was featured on a number of compiled lists of best or most influential games, including those of Electronic Gaming Monthly, IGN, and Nintendo Power. In June 2009, it was voted as the best game ever in GameFAQs' reader poll. Ocarina of Time has consistently been placed at number one in Edge magazine's "top 100 games" lists: a staff-voted list in January 2000, a staff- and reader-voted list in July 2007, and a list of "The 100 Best Games to Play Today" in March 2009. In May, 2011, IGN held a tournament style competition voted on by fans celebrating the 25th anniversary of the original Legend of Zelda's release, with Ocarina of Time being voted the greatest Zelda game of all time, beating Majora's Mask in the final round. It beat The Adventure of Link in Round 1, Phantom Hourglass in Round 2, and The Wind Waker in Round 3.
Yes, the game was received with warm criticism. It received a ton of awesome reviews, and acclaim. It received way higher scores across the board than this new Zelda title...by far.

But it was described more as innovative and revolutionary when it came out. I didn't see reviewers using hyperbole like "THIS IS THE BEST ZELDA GAME, EVER!" like IGN is doing today for Skyward Sword.

Furthermore, it is clear from the above info that Ocarina of Time has appeared on many "greatest games lists." But look at the dates. OoT came out in 1998. I see 2000....2007...2009...2011. The game wasn't elevated to "best game ever status" until everyone had a chance to play it + a few years down the road.

Which is why it is 100% retarded for a game reviewer to even utter those words. One game review website cannot determine if something is "the best game ever." That is ludicrous. It's not a decision that a game review website can make.

It's a combination of a bunch of reviews, sales, and what the players think. If you told someone back in 1998 that Ocarina of Time would be voted the best Zelda title ever in 2011.....do you think they'd believe you? They might, after beating the game and reflecting on it. That process alone has to push most gamers into the 1999 year.
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Old 11-13-2011, 11:59 AM   #2
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I watched the GameTrailers review of Skyward Sword this morning. For some reason, I couldn't stop drawing parallels between SS and FFXIII (in regard to the stripped down environments and continuous dungeon crawling). It looks as though SS did a better job at implementing this than FFXIII, but one of my favorite parts of past Zelda games, at least in the 3D era, was simply exploring the worlds.
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Old 11-13-2011, 04:07 PM   #3
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The Gametrailers review just confused me. They basically tear it apart, have very few good things to say about it, but then they still give it a 9.1
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Old 11-13-2011, 04:16 PM   #4
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The Gametrailers review just confused me. They basically tear it apart, have very few good things to say about it, but then they still give it a 9.1
That's an issue I have with a lot of their reviews.

Sometimes the content doesn't really match the score they end up giving it.
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:58 AM   #5
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Even IGN point out some issues and still threw a 10 at the game. Most reviews across the board admit that having to recalibrate the controller is annoying and an issue that you never had to put up with in the past. I don't doubt the awesomeness of this game, but reviewers hand out 10s like hotcakes these days.

Reviewers need to do what Yahtzee does or something...only less meanly.
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:09 AM   #6
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Even IGN point out some issues and still threw a 10 at the game. Most reviews across the board admit that having to recalibrate the controller is annoying and an issue that you never had to put up with in the past. I don't doubt the awesomeness of this game, but reviewers hand out 10s like hotcakes these days.

Reviewers need to do what Yahtzee does or something...only less meanly.
Oh yeah, that I don't get either, but the defense is always that a 10 doesn't mean a game is perfect.

I really think the whole gaming scale is a broken mess.
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:12 PM   #7
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Oh yeah, that I don't get either, but the defense is always that a 10 doesn't mean a game is perfect.

I really think the whole gaming scale is a broken mess.
That's what I was going to point out, that defense. I think the reviewers have an idea of what they mean by a ten and the audience doesn't even have that. The opinions on what is a ten that I've read from forum users varies considerably.
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:11 PM   #8
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I noticed how cheap the normal edition of this game is. It will go for €40 and even €35 next Friday. Normally games like that are €50.

So I'm hoping that the collector's edition will also be a bit cheaper... currently my store lists it as €70, but they already said they will drop the price if other stores (Mediamarkt) do it.
€35 extra for just a golden WiiMote+ is a bit much...
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:36 AM   #9
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Woah, I can pick up my copy a day early. (Edit: that means right now.)


But I have so much to do before I'll have time to play.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:43 PM   #10
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Woah, I can pick up my copy a day early. (Edit: that means right now.)


But I have so much to do before I'll have time to play.
I'm going to have to wait at least two weeks before being able to play it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:36 PM   #11
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Awe, this game is getting me so emotional, more than it should!

Controls are great, flying is great, story is great.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:05 PM   #12
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Does anyone have any info on being able to get it in the USA a day early? I have it pre-ordered from Gamestop (not some thing I normally do)
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:55 PM   #13
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Does anyone have any info on being able to get it in the USA a day early? I have it pre-ordered from Gamestop (not some thing I normally do)
Some scatter that some Wal-marts are selling it today, but not much else.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:34 PM   #14
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Wouldnt Nintendo be upset if Wal-Mart, the biggest retailer of them all, starts selling their game a full 3 days before they are suppoused to?
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:50 PM   #15
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Well a kmart sold MW3 before the launch date and someone bought it and sold it on ebay for 1,400+. I don't think it was every Kmart, it must have been one Kmart. The same thing could happen to Walmart. One idiot employee or manager doesn't know the release date and puts it on the shelves. That's my two cents.
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