Microsoft Announces New Xbox Controller - Page 2

Typhoid · 09-03-2010, 02:44 AM

Both systems get the job done. I don't really see where the weak debate we're having lies.

gekko · 09-03-2010, 11:53 AM

I'm not trying to debate you, other than pointing out the possible long-term side-effects of built-in batteries. I absolutely hate the PS3 controller, but it has nothing to do with batteries.

I'm actually just curious how PS3 worked, because I've never really used one.

manasecret · 09-03-2010, 12:21 PM

The PS3 controller does not charge when the PS3 is off. I think this is a stupid oversight, but nonetheless hasn't affected my gaming much.

The other stupid oversight is that the USB cord to charge the controller is I think like 3 feet long. So when I'm gaming and relaxing back on my couch playing on an HDTV about ten feet away, and the controller buzzes warning me it's almost out of juice, I have to pull up a chair up close to the TV and be chained to the PS3 3 feet away. To be fair, it's just an annoyance, and obviously not that big of one, otherwise I'd just go buy a longer cable...

TheGame · 09-03-2010, 03:08 PM

To Gekko,

Yeah, the Ps3 controller lasts pretty darn long without a charge. I usually don't ever turn the system off too, unless I'm going out of town or something.

I remember when I used my mini USB for my phone and ended up losing it for a while... I played my system just as much as normal and the controler lasted almost 2 weeks. But it never even died... That's just when I got the USB charger back.

For a controler that has force feedback and motion controls, it's pretty damn power efficient. (If the system is in the stand-by/screen saver mode where the light dims, I just have to pick up the controler and everything lights back up because of the motion feedback)

I've yet to meet someone with a faulty Ps3 controler battery too. I think down the line it may be a problem, but by Ps5 they're likely going to have Ps3 backward compatibility anyway... if there's not already some new downloadable media store like the Wii/Ps3 has.

Typhoid · 09-03-2010, 04:23 PM

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The other stupid oversight is that the USB cord to charge the controller is I think like 3 feet long.

Well, it's just a normal USB cable, is why. You can use any USB cable in your PS3. My friend charged his phone via my PS3 the other night. I've charged my PS3 controller on my computer before. Circle of life.

manasecret · 09-04-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Well, it's just a normal USB cable, is why. You can use any USB cable in your PS3. My friend charged his phone via my PS3 the other night. I've charged my PS3 controller on my computer before. Circle of life.

Well, duh, way to repeat what I just said. It still doesn't mean it wasn't a stupid choice (read: cheap choice) to include a ridiculously short 3 ft cord for the controller. Especially since it doesn't charge unless the console is on, so it's not like it's just a short charge cable, it's a short playing cable. And there's no such thing as a "normal" length USB cord -- it was just a cheap decision.

But I can't imagine you admitting anything Sony did with the PS3 was dumb in any way...

Vampyr · 09-04-2010, 12:47 PM

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

15' USB for less than $2.

TheGame · 09-05-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by manasecret

Well, duh, way to repeat what I just said. It still doesn't mean it wasn't a stupid choice (read: cheap choice) to include a ridiculously short 3 ft cord for the controller. Especially since it doesn't charge unless the console is on, so it's not like it's just a short charge cable, it's a short playing cable. And there's no such thing as a "normal" length USB cord -- it was just a cheap decision.

But I can't imagine you admitting anything Sony did with the PS3 was dumb in any way...

Uh... They made it wireless with a ridiculously long battery life. I think that kinda defeats the idea that the cord is too short. You're kinda digging deep here to find something wrong with the controler. lol

But I guess for you the glass is half empty and for Typhoid it's half full.

The way I see it, if they gave me an 8 foot USB that I only use when the controller is charging, that'd actually be MORE of a problem. Since the controller is sitting right by the system every time it's charging. Now I'd have this massive wire that I have to wrap around the controler for no reason.

The Duggler · 09-05-2010, 05:42 PM

I predict some big changes for the controller of the PS4. Keeping that 10 year old design is retarded.

Zach · 09-06-2010, 09:50 AM

Ick, it looks ugly to me. Silver and chrome... ew.

BreakABone · 09-06-2010, 11:29 PM

Personally not a fan of the DualShock controller.

Prefer the placement of the analog stick on the 360 controller and the likes.

And on the SixAxis still feel the R2/L2 buttons feel so filmsy.

I doubt Sony will try much new though, which is odd.

TheSlyMoogle · 09-07-2010, 02:29 PM

I prefer Sony's controller design for fighting games. However I haven't played fighting games on a standard controller in 3 years now. So... Yeah.

Other than that I don't really notice the difference too much between the two except it would honestly have been nice to have the analogs some other way. They're uncomfortable to use.

Angrist · 09-08-2010, 03:26 AM

So now that we've discussed most of that... where does the Wii Classic Controller (Pro) fit in? Too much like a Dual Shock without the rumble?

Typhoid · 09-08-2010, 06:54 AM

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Would like to see the left thumbstick move, and the triggers should be concave like every other controller ever made with analog triggers.

Well, except the original PS controller, dualshock 1, dualshock 2, dualshock 3, and whatever the other non-rumble controller is called. Oh, and theres the non-concave joystick of the N64 and the Gamecube.

Come to think of it, only 3 controllers have concave sticks. The Xbox 360 controller, and the Xbox controllers.

That seems to be 7 that don't indent, and 3 that do.

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The Xbox 360 controller has changed a little bit during its life too.

They removed some plastic. Sweet. They went from:

To:

Buttons are still all in the same spot, relatively. No major additions or subtractions. No real changes. [I don't count the black and white button as "major changes"]

Opposed to this:

to

That is what I meant by changes. A complete overhaul. Not changing the colour, removing some plastic and keeping the layout.

Vampyr · 09-08-2010, 08:16 AM

He said analog triggers, not analog sticks.

Also Nintendo systems have been around for much longer, and had to endure the transition from 2D to 3D. Also neither the N64 controller or the gamecube controller were very good, probably because they were trying to change and be different for the heck of it. The only reason I like the N64 one is because of nostalgia.

But really, I don't see the point of change for the sake of change.