Nintendo Press Conference: Stream & Discussion

[Bond]

I told you Nintendo had a good press conference penguin!

In all honesty, I thought they had the best press conference of the big three.

[Perfect Stu]

weird how those publications think almost the opposite of 90% of the gamers out there. virtually everyone is saying Sony had the best conference.

let's face it...for gaming, Nintendo's conference was weak. Wii Fit? seriously guys if exercise mats are the future of gaming, count me out. join a gym or get outside and play some basketball or something.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

weird how those publications think almost the opposite of 90% of the gamers out there. virtually everyone is saying Sony had the best conference.

Well, according to this Gamespot poll...

"The Big Three have spoken. Who came out on top?"
Microsoft - A parade of 2007 titles led by the Master Chief! (39%) 6,057
Nintendo - I've already rearranged my living room for Wii Fit! (20%) 3,102
Sony - Killzone 2, take me home! (39%) 6,098

Seems rather close to me.

[gekko]

Gamers are biased. Not a good judge. 360 owners watch PS3 expecting to be convinced on why they should buy one, a PS3 owners watches it to see what's coming up for their system. Future may look good to someone who owns a PS3, but to a 360 owner, there's nothing worth writing home about. Goes every which way with that.

Regardless, no one can deny the numbers MS put up. Shall we take a look at the highlights?

Since the release of PS3 and Wii...

• 18 3rd party Xbox 360 games have been in the top 10 sales charts
• No Wii or PS3 3rd party games have ever made it in the top 10
• Xbox has nearly double US hardware sales as PS3, and is only 100,000 shy of Wii
• Xbox 360 has sold more games than PS3 and Wii combined.
• 2/3 of all 3rd party titles sales are on Xbox 360.
• Half of all consumer spending is on Xbox 360

Amazing. If I was a publisher, all my games would be going to 360. It's just like PS2 last gen.

[Crash]

I don't think that is a fair assessment. The 360 is a couple years old, Wii and PS3 haven't even hit their first birthdays.

Although, Since sony is after the same market segment as 360, they are going to need a miracle to pull this one off. In that respect, same as PS2, as in, the headstart paid off big time.

However, with the ps2, the graphics sucked compared to the xbox. This time round, the xbox 360 has as good, and more often BETTER graphics than ps3.

combined with price, and the rest... things aren't looking good for sony.

Someone tell me 3 good reasons to buy a ps3 over an xbox360.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Crash

I don't think that is a fair assessment. The 360 is a couple years old, Wii and PS3 haven't even hit their first birthdays.

Although, Since sony is after the same market segment as 360, they are going to need a miracle to pull this one off. In that respect, same as PS2, as in, the headstart paid off big time.

However, with the ps2, the graphics sucked compared to the xbox. This time round, the xbox 360 has as good, and more often BETTER graphics than ps3.

combined with price, and the rest... things aren't looking good for sony.

Someone tell me 3 good reasons to buy a ps3 over an xbox360.

It isn't really fair at all, MS can gloat about all the numbers they want, but eventually Sony and Nintendo are going to eat at their share of the market. 360's had two holiday seasons, the competitors have had one... things will get more clear when Sony and Nintendo reach their 3rd and 4th holidays.

Xbox 360 is being outsold by Ps2 at the moment. That should speak for itself. There is a HUGE amount of gamers out there who haven't bought anything this gen yet.

Nobody's crazy enough to go out on a limb and say Sony will beat microsoft in the end with how the market is laid out now, but I can tell you now that its far from over.

As for for your 3 reasons.. though it may not apply for everyone:
1) If you're an RPG fan, Ps3 is the safest buy. SE will possibly make RPGs for 360, but they are guaranteed to make them for Ps3.
2) Ps3 is just outright better hardware. More game potential, andmuch better built. No ring of death! Free online anyone? Blu-ray player and wireless internet without paying hundreds of dollars for add ons?
3) Any my personal reason, MGS4 >_> When it was announced that it was exclusive for Ps3 I saw a lot of people across a lot of message boards say "****, I have to buy a Ps3 now". Fun stuff.

Those aren't the only reasons, but it is a worthwhile system...

I assume Next year they'll probably have somewhat similar info but they may take Wii out of consideration as competition (since Wii will pass up 360 sometime this year). Then the year after who knows lol

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by Crash

Someone tell me 3 good reasons to buy a ps3 over an xbox360.

1) Better tech
2) HD movies
3) You'll still be playing it past 2010

I'm trying to stay away from game exclusives because you'd most likely say "I prefer the exclusives on 360 or Wii", but lots of people would disagree. On top of that, Sony hasnt really appealed to a lot of...GameTavern members. They did just fine not selling a PS2 to a bunch of...GameTavern members.

[Null]

1) Better tech --- newer, im not so sure better though.
2) HD movies ---- this is a very valid and good point.
3) You'll still be playing it past 2010 --- not unless sony picks up thier game and starts doing a lot better.



as a fan of the ps2, i loved my ps2 so much i said many times ps3 is baught on launch, how could they go wrong?

well, they found a few ways to do that.

as of right now i'd prefer a 360, and i never liked the xbox at all, and have always hated microsoft in general.


and one by one, sony keeps letting exclusive games slip right out of thier hands.
so still be playing it past 2010? im not entirely sure of that at this point.

[Perfect Stu]

It's better tech. Not only has it proven to be FAR more reliable, but I'd be willing to bet we'll be seeing a noticeable gap in exclusive game performance between 360 and PS3 by 2009 and beyond. Sony has proven that they design hardware that is a little ahead of its time and pays dividends all the way throughout the hardware lifecycle (perfect example is PS2. compare God of War 2 to early PS2 titles, and then compare Halo to any of the late XBox titles). On top of that, it's wireless out of the box, hard drive is included and developers can utilize that, and it has compatibility with more formats.

[Jonbo298]

I felt more of a "meh" from Nintendo's conference this year. WiiFit is a good thing and all, but there wasn't alot of new "games" announced from Nintendo themselves like they usually do.

Hopefully next year is better.

[thatmariolover]

In honest truth, Nintendo's press conference was very disheartening for me. I am hoping they have some more stuff up their sleeves or I'll be a rather disappointed fan. Nintendo took the industry by storm this generation but they can only ride that hype wave for so long and once the momentum dies it's gonna come down to the games (which to this point, haven't been stellar save for a few titles).

There have been some good games, but all in all, only a few that really stand out. Many of Nintendo's Wii tuned sequels have been hugely gimmicky. I liked Wario Ware, it was fun, but it ignored standard play style and only focused on the new controller – whereas a combination would have been more difficult, diverse, and ultimately rewarding. It also shared a problem with Mario Party: The different play-styles weren't fun. The mini-games themselves weren't bad, but they lacked diversity, and ultimately contributed to games that felt stale far more quickly than their predecessors.

On the other hand, Nintendo has Metroid, Mario, Smash Bros, and Mario Kart on the way, which should guarantee at least a steady stream of hardware/software sales. But if there isn't something planned for soon after, we're gonna hit a long three quarter waiting period until the games showcased at next E3 are released. Which leads me to my next gripe: E3.

Where does Nintendo get off showing Wii Fit as their star title – not showing Smash Bros in even a video demo – let alone a playable format? Certainly Wii Fit is a novel concept, but all the same, it's not going to hit the Mainstream the same way Wii Sports did. It's cool, it's interesting, and ultimately probably should have been done. But making it the star of Nintendo's showing at E3 was a move that leaves me with questions to the motives. Did they not realize it wasn't going to hit the mainstream crowd? Or did they really just have nothing better to show? Neither answer bodes well for Nintendo's future in the coming few years.

I guess it just becomes wait and see. As for the PS3, Sony is just silly. They continue bad mouthing the competition and talking about the PS3 as if it were the hottest gadget on the market – when their sales were bad to start with and have steadily declined since launch day. Pride and arrogance do nothing to endear people to a brand name – it simply makes their smug fanboys smugger regardless of reality.

Their SDK issues are nothing new. God of War looking better than first generation PS2 titles isn't really something to talk up. It underscores how poorly the dev tools Sony provided their programmers with were designed. And it begs the question 'why didn't they do better this time around'. They seem to have failed to recognize that hardware without the proper tools to make software is worthless. And until developer libraries are fleshed out and distributed properly it's going to be an ongoing issue.

Bah, I've said enough. It's late and I'm exhausted.