Big Fat Liar: Debunking Michael Moore

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Wow. I don't agree with what you guys are saying, okay? I'm not WILLFULLY BLIND and I did inform myself by reading those sites. But becasue I disagree with you ,you'll probably call me stupid. And you guys have a problem with political srguments. I'm willing to see things from other points of view. But you (The Strangler and possibly Xantar) will just yell at me for saying what I believe which is mainly why i didn't argue with you. I didn't want another huge fight. But I don't agree with everything that you're saying. Now, I have read the info on the sites and have re-evaluated my beliefs and though what you say makes sense but I still don't agree with you. You can yell at me and throw your "facts" at me but I still won't care. Just like you won't be persuaded to see things from my POV i haven't been swayed to see things from yours. People of your political party spout lies and bull**** just like you say Michael Moore does. No matter what political party someone is in, some people will think they're full of ****. That is the problem about arguing about politics.

So right from the beginning, you decided to not outline your position and just tell us that lots of people spout bull**** (and by implication, Michael Moore's yellow journalism is okay)?

Look, I don't know if you realize it, but gun control is beside the point in this debate. We're talking about Michael Moore, not guns. The Strangler has already said that he sees some validity in Michael Moore's argument but that nonetheless he wants an argument grounded in reality.

So if you think you disagree with me on whether guns should be banned or whether there should be tougher laws, don't. Unless you've seen my posts from a few years ago, you don't even know what my position on gun control. But I'll tell you right now that I don't exactly share The Strangler's position on gun control. And moreover, we most certainly don't belong to the same party as you seem to imply.

So what is it you disagree with us about? Do you disagree about whether Michael Moore is lying? Or do you disagree about whether it's acceptable?

What exactly do you believe?

I'm looking back through your posts, and all I see is you continually repeating, more or less, that everyone lies. You never attempt to, for example, refute The Strangler's argument that Michael Moore shouldn't be trusted. In other words, all you've been doing is evading the issue. And that is why I accused you of being willfully blind. I can't think of another reason you would refuse so consistently to just debate with The Strangler about what he's actually talking about.