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Old 05-19-2003, 10:35 PM   #31
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no. there didnt have to be DVD player in there

it uses the DVD format. so it would require DVD technology.

DVD player would be just a matter of a program running to know what to do with the disks. isnt required. but just being a program isnt a whole lot more to add beyond what the PS2 would be without. because it would still have a DVD drive in it.
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Old 05-19-2003, 11:05 PM   #32
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no. there didnt have to be DVD player in there

it uses the DVD format. so it would require DVD technology.

DVD player would be just a matter of a program running to know what to do with the disks. isnt required. but just being a program isnt a whole lot more to add beyond what the PS2 would be without. because it would still have a DVD drive in it.
exactly. it doesn't mean it has to play DVD movies...but since its format IS DVD, adding a program that plays movies is no trouble whatsoever.
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Old 05-20-2003, 02:22 AM   #33
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But at least Nintendo's quality didn't go down over the years. They still create classics to this day. But I also think Sony will have their own niche in the handheld market. Nintendo is the only one that makes consoles/handhelds for games and not all this other "stuff" I really don't want to pay for if I already own it. ie: DVD Player.
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Well, I liked N64 more than GCN.... so I would say the quality is going down

I think if they wouldn't have sold Rare, kept the Aki wrestling games, and made a dark moody Zelda instead of Celda my opinion would have been FAR different.
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Old 05-20-2003, 10:13 AM   #34
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How is it their fault that Aki isnt making wrestling games with THQ? And from a bussiness perspecteive Nintendo had to sell Rare cause Rare just wasnt profiting. As far as a moody zelda, well, we'll have to wait and see!
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Old 05-20-2003, 11:29 AM   #35
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Oh ok. Thanks Null and Stu.



Well, GameKinG, we would not have to wait and see if Nintendo didn't make it cell shaded. The cool game would have been released, so we would have allready saw! lol.
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Old 05-20-2003, 03:14 PM   #36
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How is it their fault that Aki isnt making wrestling games with THQ? And from a bussiness perspecteive Nintendo had to sell Rare cause Rare just wasnt profiting. As far as a moody zelda, well, we'll have to wait and see!

I already know the excuses, and I don't care... If GCN had Aki wrestlers and Rare it would be automaticaly better than N64 imo, but it doesn't have them so it's not better. Excuses have nothing to do with it, GCN is much worse than it could have been.... and FAR worse than I imagined it would be.
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Old 05-20-2003, 07:31 PM   #37
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I already know the excuses, and I don't care... If GCN had Aki wrestlers and Rare it would be automaticaly better than N64
What? There were no Rare games on the Gamecube before it moved to X-Box, and your saying the GC is automatically worse because it doesn't have a development team that has never released nething on the system?

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Old 05-20-2003, 07:41 PM   #38
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What? There were no Rare games on the Gamecube before it moved to X-Box, and your saying the GC is automatically worse because it doesn't have a development team that has never released nething on the system?

Star Fox Adventures?
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:08 PM   #39
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it's still not enough to say how great a development team is if they only released one game on a system.
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:33 PM   #40
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That's weird The Cube has two AKI wrestlers and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference, I mean I enjoyed AKI n64 games just as much as everyone else but if they continued at the rate they were going, this would have been the 7th or so game that used the same engine, and it gets tiresome. I may be one of the few with the opinion, but I prefer having other THQ games and AKI games in duration in a way it gives you a different taste as well as shows you how well made the AKI games were made, but that's my 2 cents, I don't know how a discussion about two handhelds entered the console market, but eh the wonders of GT.
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Old 05-20-2003, 11:27 PM   #41
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Nah, I agree with TheGame. The AKI games on N64 did NOT get tiresome for me, at all. I can still (and do) play WCW vs nWo: World Tour for a lot longer than I can play most new games.

Anyway, nothing will compared to the glory days of N64 (funny because most people think N64 is Nintendo's worst days) for me. The Aki wrestling games make it so great. Gamecube will never compare to that, although I do like Gamecube more than I like PS2 and X-Box.
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Old 05-21-2003, 12:18 AM   #42
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You make it sound as if its a stupud excuse. Nintendo cant help what THQ does. That should be enough reason to justify no AKI. And SFA to many people was DK64 all over again. Just not the quality we expected.
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I think Rare could have done a lot better job on SFA. I think the reason it was poorly done was because Rare was planning to leave Nintendo prolly before the XBox was released. So they concentrated moviing all the former GC titles to the XBox. Since Star Fox is a tradmark to Nintendo, it was impossible to move to xbox. So they just tried to finish the game and sell by name.

Anyways. just my prediction
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Old 05-21-2003, 02:26 AM   #44
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You make it sound as if its a stupud excuse. Nintendo cant help what THQ does. That should be enough reason to justify no AKI. And SFA to many people was DK64 all over again. Just not the quality we expected.

no no no, I'm not saying it's a stupid excuse... It is a good and realistic excuse... but I'm not dealing with excuses here.

We are comparing item GCN to N64, period. I don't care why the games are gone, I just know that they are gone. Excuses will never make GCN better than N64... and excuses will never make GCN better or as good as I imagined it would be... Excuses help nothing, good or bad.

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That's weird The Cube has two AKI wrestlers and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference, I mean I enjoyed AKI n64 games just as much as everyone else but if they continued at the rate they were going, this would have been the 7th or so game that used the same engine, and it gets tiresome. I may be one of the few with the opinion, but I prefer having other THQ games and AKI games in duration in a way it gives you a different taste as well as shows you how well made the AKI games were made
bah, how would it get tiresome? It's better than the crap they have out now, period. If SD is going to come out every year I think that there is no problem with Aki WWE games coming out every year. How could a person get tired of perfection?

Oh wait, this is coming from a guy who thinks EA Sports should be released every 2 years

You got weird views on things

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What? There were no Rare games on the Gamecube before it moved to X-Box, and your saying the GC is automatically worse because it doesn't have a development team that has never released nething on the system?
No, I'm saying GCN is worse because it lost the rights to my most anticipated game of this generation (Perfect Dark)...(even though Halo 2 has changed that for the time being )

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Nah, I agree with TheGame. The AKI games on N64 did NOT get tiresome for me, at all. I can still (and do) play WCW vs nWo: World Tour for a lot longer than I can play most new games.
Thank you, not to mention this gen would have been a huge jump for the series... just think about DJV with WWE guys, more controls, a better story mode, and *drools* CAW.

No Mercy had a lot of room for improvement away from the gameplay, give it some real intro videos, a HIAC, some truly competitive graphics, maybe even some 3-on 3 matches with a ref that can be distracted... and that game would have detroyed WM XIX/x8, Raw 1/2, and SD 4/5.... hell, thinking about it gives me a headache because they are just wasting thier talent now

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Anyway, nothing will compared to the glory days of N64 (funny because most people think N64 is Nintendo's worst days) for me. The Aki wrestling games make it so great. Gamecube will never compare to that, although I do like Gamecube more than I like PS2 and X-Box.
Well, I think N64 was the glory days of Nintendo too... this is my history with Nintnendo

NES-Loved
SNES-Liked
N64-Loved
GCN-Liked

Maybe next gen they can bounce back... maybe
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There is no way I'm going to but a PSP untill at least 2-1/2- 3 years after it's release... I don't want any more QC "suprises" Like i got with my PS2 (now completely dead... won't even play CD audio anymore)... I got it for christmas the year it was released... after a while it started crashing occasionallly when playing PSX games, then it stopped reading PSX games and PS2 games with Darker colored discs, then it added a few lighter PS2 games... now I've got a $200 paperweight

I have no doubt that the PSP will be technologically superrior to thr GBA... but Quality is important and Sony seems to have a problem there (original PS sometimes Overheated, Several friends have Sony CD players that stopped working for no apparent reason) and untill i am sure that the PSP will last I will not buy it.
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