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Old 02-04-2012, 09:08 AM   #16
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I don't want to ruin skyward sword for anyone, but I was thinking of this "time" complex in regard to the game as well.




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When you have to go back in time to fight Demise, obviously nothing has been decided yet, but you have time to run around and get what you need for the battle, by going back into the future world. If you go into the future, wouldn't the fate of the world have been decided by then, even if you didn't go to the final fight yet? I just feel like if you go into the future, obviously something would have changed there after Demise was resurrected.


In back to the future Marty changes something in the past, and it has an effect on the future obviously. Especially when he went back to 1985 after the almanac was in Biff's hands in 1955. Just the fact that Demise has been reborn should have changed the future as soon as you step back into it.
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:51 AM   #17
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I like to see it as they do in the X-Men cartoon, a few episodes with Bishop I think he's called. He travels back in time to change something, comes back to the future and stuff is changed. But he's the only one who notices it... for the rest of the people it's just what they've grown up with. The present doesn't suddenly change when you go back.
And I like the idea of BttF2, where a second timeline is created.

But yeah, this is exactly what you have with every time travelling story. It makes no sense. Paradoxen within paradoxen.
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Re: Official Zelda Timeline
Old 02-04-2012, 01:29 PM   #18
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I don't want to ruin skyward sword for anyone, but I was thinking of this "time" complex in regard to the game as well.




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When you have to go back in time to fight Demise, obviously nothing has been decided yet, but you have time to run around and get what you need for the battle, by going back into the future world. If you go into the future, wouldn't the fate of the world have been decided by then, even if you didn't go to the final fight yet? I just feel like if you go into the future, obviously something would have changed there after Demise was resurrected.


In back to the future Marty changes something in the past, and it has an effect on the future obviously. Especially when he went back to 1985 after the almanac was in Biff's hands in 1955. Just the fact that Demise has been reborn should have changed the future as soon as you step back into it.


It depends on how you look at it. Following BttF logic, what you say makes sense. However, it could be more of a "pre-destination" type thing. Basically, everything in the past has already happened. Link's present time would never change because the time he's used to living in was created by Demise being defeated in the past. Link hasn't personally experienced it from his perspective, yet, but that doesn't mean it didn't already happen in the past. Kind of like how you can see Zelda in her crystal (although you won't know what it is) long before you ever see her seal herself in the past.

Anyway, this is why you don't try to apply logic to time travel and just go with it.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:39 PM   #19
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I don't want to ruin skyward sword for anyone, but I was thinking of this "time" complex in regard to the game as well.




*Spoilers*

When you have to go back in time to fight Demise, obviously nothing has been decided yet, but you have time to run around and get what you need for the battle, by going back into the future world. If you go into the future, wouldn't the fate of the world have been decided by then, even if you didn't go to the final fight yet? I just feel like if you go into the future, obviously something would have changed there after Demise was resurrected.


In back to the future Marty changes something in the past, and it has an effect on the future obviously. Especially when he went back to 1985 after the almanac was in Biff's hands in 1955. Just the fact that Demise has been reborn should have changed the future as soon as you step back into it.
From what I understand, Skyward Sword is sort of like a closed loop. Everything that is going to happen, happens in the game already, but you only do it in order of how its presented to Link.

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For example, at the start of the game if you look inside the temple, you can already see that Zelda is in her cocoon like state, and of course Impa in the temple has the bracelet that Zelda gives her in the past at the start of the game.

So one could believe that everything has already played out (at least until Demise's awakening) before the game even begins!


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Old 02-04-2012, 02:12 PM   #20
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Hm, I never noticed Zelda in her crystal before. I guess it's another good reason to replay the game in the coming year. Hero mode is one of the others.
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