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03-20-2009, 02:54 PM
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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's budget would generate deficits averaging almost $1 trillion a year over the next decade, according to the latest congressional estimates, significantly worse than predicted by the White House just last month.
The Congressional Budget Office figures, obtained by The Associated Press Friday, predict Obama's budget will produce $9.3 trillion worth of red ink over 2010-2019. That's $2.3 trillion worse than the White House predicted in its budget.
Worst of all, CBO says the deficit under Obama's policies would never go below 4 percent of the size of the economy, figures that economists agree are unsustainable. By the end of the decade, the deficit would exceed 5 percent of gross domestic product, a dangerously high level.
The latest figures, even worse than expected by top Democrats, throw a major monkey wrench into efforts to enact Obama's budget, which promises universal health care for all and higher spending for domestic programs like education and research into renewable energy.
The dismal deficit figures, if they prove to be accurate, inevitably raise the prospect that Obama and his allies controlling Congress would have to consider raising taxes after the recession ends or paring back his agenda.
But without referencing the figures, Obama insisted on Friday that his agenda is still on track.
"What we will not cut are investments that will lead to real growth and prosperity over the long term," Obama said. "That's why our budget makes a historic commitment to comprehensive health care reform. That's why it enhances America's competitiveness by reducing our dependence on foreign oil and building a clean energy economy."
Many Democrats were already uncomfortable with Obama's budget, which promises to cut the deficit to $533 billion in five years. The CBO says the red ink for that year will total $672 billion.
The worsening economy is responsible for the even deeper fiscal mess inherited by Obama. As an illustration, CBO says that the deficit for the current budget year, which began Oct. 1, will top $1.8 trillion, $93 billion more than foreseen by the White House.
The 2009 deficit, fueled by the $700 billion Wall Street bailout and diving tax revenues stemming from the worsening recession, is four times the previous $459 billion record set just last year.
The CBO's estimate for 2010 is worse as well, with a deficit of almost $1.4 trillion expected under administration policies, about $200 billion more than predicted by Obama.
By the end of the decade, the deficit under Obama's blueprint would go back up to $1.2 trillion.
Long-term deficit predictions have proven notoriously fickle — George W. Bush inherited flawed projections of a 10-year, $5.6 trillion surplus and instead produced record deficits — and if the economy outperforms CBO's expectations, the deficits could prove significantly smaller
Democrats in Congress are readying Obama's budget for preliminary votes next week, and they promise to cut the deficit in half within five years.
Democrats are likely to curb somewhat Obama's request for a 9 percent increase in non-defense agency budgets.
Obama's $3.6 trillion budget for the 2010 fiscal year beginning Oct. 1 contains ambitious programs to overhaul the U.S. health care system and initiate new "cap-and-trade" rules to combat global warming.
Both initiatives involve raising federal revenues sharply higher, but those dollars wouldn't be used to defray the burgeoning deficit.
Republicans say Obama's budget plan taxes, spends and borrows too much, and they've been sharply critical of his $787 billion economic stimulus measure and a just-passed $410 billion omnibus spending bill that awarded big increases to domestic agency budgets.
The administration says it inherited deficits totaling $9 trillion over the next decade and that its budget plan cuts $2 trillion from those deficits. But most of those spending reductions come from reducing costs for the war in Iraq.
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Not good news. This is particularly disturbing:
^ Total Deficit or Surplus (Percentage of GDP)
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03-23-2009, 09:37 AM
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Re: New deficit estimates much worse than W. House predicted
Haven't you learned yet that no cares about facts in politics anymore? No wonder no one ever replies to your posts, you fill them with too much information they don't want to believe. [/sarcasm, if you couldn't tell]
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03-23-2009, 12:31 PM
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Re: New deficit estimates much worse than W. House predicted
The moral of that chart: Bill Clinton Rulezzzz!!!!!!
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03-23-2009, 12:56 PM
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The moral of that chart: Bill Clinton Rulezzzz!!!!!!
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When it comes to the national debt, I agree. He did an excellent job with the deficit and working with the Republican legislature to get there. Those were the days when bipartisanship actually meant something...
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03-23-2009, 01:45 PM
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Re: New deficit estimates much worse than W. House predicted
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When it comes to the national debt, I agree. He did an excellent job with the deficit and working with the Republican legislature to get there. Those were the days when bipartisanship actually meant something...
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Hey baby. Let's bipartisan. 
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03-23-2009, 03:50 PM
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Re: New deficit estimates much worse than W. House predicted
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The moral of that chart: Bill Clinton Rulezzzz!!!!!!
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He definitely deserves his due with regard to balancing the budget. Best in recent history.
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03-23-2009, 03:52 PM
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If only he knew how to balance his women like his budget....
So are all the people who voted Obama happy thus far with their decision?
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03-23-2009, 03:59 PM
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So are all the people who voted Obama happy thus far with their decision?
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Lets try and keep the thread on topic now that we've gotten a few posts on it. Of we can concentrate on details rather than overarching evaluations we can hopefully avoid emotion driven exchanges.
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03-23-2009, 07:17 PM
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Re: New deficit estimates much worse than W. House predicted
When has a Government financial prediction ever been under, or even on target?
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03-23-2009, 07:54 PM
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Re: New deficit estimates much worse than W. House predicted
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So are all the people who voted Obama happy thus far with their decision?
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Yes, absolutley. I would probably be throwing up right now if Mcain were president.
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03-23-2009, 11:30 PM
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Re: New deficit estimates much worse than W. House predicted
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Lets try and keep the thread on topic now that we've gotten a few posts on it. Of we can concentrate on details rather than overarching evaluations we can hopefully avoid emotion driven exchanges.
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Yes, absolutley. I would probably be throwing up right now if Mcain were president.
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I rest my case.
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