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Old 09-06-2005, 10:39 PM   #16
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Until the day I sold it.
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Old 09-06-2005, 10:42 PM   #17
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I meant as in battery life.
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Old 09-06-2005, 10:45 PM   #18
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Oh, it wasnt too bad. From what I remember it was actually alot better than I would predict it to be.
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:55 AM   #19
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I trhink the list should be more read as "Companies that took these ideas and were accepted more publicly".

Intellivision may have had a D Pad first but it didn't become as popular until Nintendo utilized it.

"Analog" stick may have been on the Atari but Nintendo was the one that made it gain wide popularity/acceptance.

Same for Sega. First to implement some of these things but didn't get as widely accepted until another company used it.
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:02 AM   #20
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Whoa whoa whoa, analog sticks and joysticks are completely different. Analog has many different levels of feedback that can be programmed differently. Analog sticks have 360 degrees of feedback and however many levels to the sides. Analog shoulder buttons on the cube have 256 levels of input, that you could theoretically program independently.
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:12 AM   #21
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Whoa whoa whoa, analog sticks and joysticks are completely different.
I'm pretty sure the wikipedia article was talking about analog sticks... If they were talking about joysticks, the nod would have gone to an earlier system... But who knows? I don't... Do you? Does anybody? WHO!?!?
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:55 AM   #22
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I could have sworn the NES Advantage (which definatly had turbo, and was also the greatest controller EVER) was older than the NES Max.


In fact, I'd bet money on it.

that's what I mean, updated
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:46 AM   #23
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I had an intellivision, and the controller
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:03 PM   #24
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The analog controllers for the Atari weren't analog sticks. I'm sure the games didn't have analog control back then. I remember reading that somewhere.

Gekko's right, and Nintendo were the first to get an analog stick on a controller.

And about the Wavebird, the older wireless controllers all had infrared recievers. I think the Wavebird was the first on a console to use RF. That's probably the innovation.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:53 PM   #25
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i knowpeople have addressed the wireless controller issue but I wanted to throw in my two cents.

I had the wireless controller for the sega and for the super nintendo (actually I should say HAVE). They both have great battery life and although the range from side to side sucks, I like them well enough. So I would have to say that the companies that made them should be attributed for the wireless controller.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:14 PM   #26
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NES had somewhat wireless control, with the NES Satellite, which acted as a four-player adapter. But I suppose that wasn't the controller itself, so it doesn't count.
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:11 PM   #27
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The analog controllers for the Atari weren't analog sticks. I'm sure the games didn't have analog control back then. I remember reading that somewhere.
From the Atari 5200 console description at allgame.com:

"The Intellivision system had raised the stakes in the gaming industry with its 16-position controller. Atari's own 2600 offered only 8 positions. In hopes of obliterating the competition, Atari designer, Craig Asher helped engineer the "analog" controller. It gives players full, 360 control of the action on-screen.

The 5200 controller contains two other features which made Atari's unique to any other system built by 1982: First, It offers speed variability. When a joystick is held in a single direction long enough, a player can increase his or her rate of on-screen movement."

From the Vectrex console description at allgame.com:

"The Vector joysticks are analog and allow players full control over direction and speed of motion. Rival companies, Intellivision and Atari (with their 2600) only offered digital controllers with their systems. These had a limited number of directions and a fixed on-screen speed."

Here's something I did find out from this site...

"Most Vectrex games do not take advantage of the analog capability of the Vectrex Controller.

Most Vectrex games are programmed to give an all-or-nothing joystick response during gameplay...This means that you have to push the analog joystick knob so far to get a response...a digital response to your action..."
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:41 AM   #28
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The Atari one does not have what I was talking about. The Vectrex does though.

Your speed varies depending on the angle the stick is tilted in SM64. That's not what the Atari has, you posted it yourself. The Vectrex seems to have that, but I've never heard of the Vectrex .
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