What's wrong with this world?

Dylflon · 06-10-2005, 03:27 AM

Got a gripe about how the world is today? Post it. Though, don't post something if you aren't prepared to debate about it.

I hate how we have to constantly hear from fundamentalists. On the rare occasion that I turn on my TV, I don't want to see some 80 year old southern christian bitching about how Bert and Ernie on Sesame Street preach the evil message of homosexuality to school children. Seriously, what is wrong with these people? They're not necessarily doing the right thing, they're just trying to indoctrinate their prejudices on the rest of the world. Get over yourselves, you self-righteous busy bodies. What's that Jerry Fallwell? You think 9/11 happened because of homosexuals? You think God hates ***s? You think that those of us that don't follow your rule book are going to burn in hell when the rapture comes? Yeah? Well **** you, fundamentalists. And **** the rapture too.

Crash · 06-10-2005, 04:23 AM

hippies, that try to push their damn liberal views on everyone else...

matter of fact, anyone who tries to push their view upon someone else... I can understand trying to convice or discuss, but PICKETING AND PROTESTORS SUCK ASS

Canyarion · 06-10-2005, 08:55 AM

Kids that kill other kids. And I mean a kid of 7 years (killed his baby sister with a piece of wood; it was in Florida, sure you heard about it) and 2 kids of 11 that tried to hang a 5-year old (England).

No need to debate about this I'd say.

MuGen · 06-10-2005, 11:31 AM

I detest incest... and not just that but incest that involves statutory rape. I was listening to Howard Stern this morning on my way to work, and heard this grandfather sexually molested his 2 year old grand daughter.....

WTF kinda sick sh*t is that? Debate it or not... that is one messed up man.

Bond · 06-10-2005, 12:00 PM

My problem with today's world is socialism.

Typhoid · 06-10-2005, 06:44 PM

I hate people who preach their views or beliefs to someone else. The whole "Im better than you, because you think differently than I do" mentality really f*cks me off. Who cares if someone doesn't believe in god? Its their choice. They dont go door to door asking of your Athiest, so why do Jehova's do it? Its in their religion? Great, good for them. Their religion is turning people into glorified vaccuum salesmen. (Im not just picking on Jehovas.)

Now, I have no problem with religion, as an Idea. I have no problem with people who believe in a god, or what have you. But I have a problem with the outspoken "Your going to hell for not thinking what I think!" kind of religious people.

Not to mention that religion is the cause of most, if not all of the wars in history. Crusades? Iraq? WWII? (I know those are only 3)

Like I said, I have no problem with religion, in the fact it makes people happy, and gives them something to strive for, but its the few people who feel the need to tell me how wrong I am for having my own piece of mind. The fact I am my own person seems to be a sin in gods eyes. If I'm asked by a religious person my religion, and reply "Athiest" thats basically like saying "I am a dirty dirty sinner, please preach to me the ways of Jesus, because you believe in god, and therefor, are much better than I am."

To clear it up, nothing against religion in general. Just the assholes who feel the need to get involved in what I think and how I think it.

Jonbo298 · 06-10-2005, 07:03 PM

Media is the problem. Hell, look at the crap they have to go after. OMG, a missing 18 year old in Aruba! Oh noez! Wow, there are a ton of people that go missing EVERYDAY.

Whats this? Oh no, a bride ran away because she is a f*cking coward and then lies to the cops and thinks she can get away with it and the media goes all boo hoo.

Ginkasa · 06-10-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Not to mention that religion is the cause of most, if not all of the wars in history. Crusades? Iraq? WWII? (I know those are only 3).

I don't think either war in Iraq was caused by religion... Unless you're thinking about Al Quaeda being Islamic and the whole 9/11 thing leading to Iraq than...

Also, WWII was not caused by religion. Sure, Hitler did the whole Holocaust thing during the war, but he didn't only persecute Jews and religions he disliked; he also did people of different races and such. And he didn't start WWII to get rid of the Jews. Hitler started WWII to take over and reform the world to fit his views. Jews (and blacks and disabled people, etc.) did not fit into his view of the world...

/me shrugs and walks away

Typhoid · 06-10-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Link1130

I don't think either war in Iraq was caused by religion... Unless you're thinking about Al Quaeda being Islamic and the whole 9/11 thing leading to Iraq than...

Also, WWII was not caused by religion. Sure, Hitler did the whole Holocaust thing during the war, but he didn't only persecute Jews and religions he disliked; he also did people of different races and such. And he didn't start WWII to get rid of the Jews. Hitler started WWII to take over and reform the world to fit his views. Jews (and blacks and disabled people, etc.) did not fit into his view of the world...

* Link1130 shrugs and walks away

I was referring to 9/11 and the whole scenario of that.

And WWII was caused by religion. You said it yourself. Just because it wasnt solely based on religion, doesn't mean religion didn't play a part in it. I never said Religion was 100% the cause of it. I should have clarified that better.

Ginkasa · 06-10-2005, 08:44 PM

I personally would think that wars caused by religions would include wars that were actually...caused by religions. Even if Hitler was tolerant of all religions, he was still very prejudiced against very many things - even hair color. WWII and the Holocaust would have happened even if religion played no part.

I see your point and I agree that religion does cause a lot of pretty stupid wars, I just think WWII is not necessarily one of those wars. The whole Middle East thing would have been more appropiate, IMO.

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Anyway, a thing I find wrong with the world are those people who who try to control everything to their views.

Like, parents who demand that violent TV shows or shows with different views than their's be taken off the air. Anti-gay people who believe that homosexuals and their views should be hidden from view, if not completely eradicated. Black righst groups who don't try to create equality, but make blacks superior to whites (white jokes are funny; black jokes are blasphemous).

Stuff like that.

/me shrugs and walks away

Professor S · 06-10-2005, 09:38 PM

Whats wrong with the world? Hmm, thats a big question for an angry man like myself.

1) Causeheads - I will no longer insult liberals by including myopic, ignorant, self-hating, cause-thumping morons into the same category. Liberals, by the original definition, were pragmatists and not bleeding hearts. JFK was a liberal, and even he believed that cutting taxes did more good than harm. Causeheads, on the other hand, are simplistic and narrowminded activists who care more about the social aspects of "hating the man" than the actual effect of their outrage. It is a culture engulfed by negativity and criticism rather than action-plans and actually FIXING THE PROBLEM.

2) Green beans

3) The Cult of Relativism - There is a growing belief that there are no universal truths, but that the only truth we know is that which we experience. While it all sounds good, like most far-left views do at first glance, it falls apart with increased inspection. Essentially relativism is an excuse to tear down social moreys and and moral values. Its the whole belief that "you can't judge me until you've walked in my shoes" and its a bunch of crap. Its an ethos built around permissiveness and excuses.

"I'm poor, so I steal." - Screw you, go to jail. Its morally and legally wrong.

"I'm a nympho, so I sleep around." - Don't complain to me when you're pregnant or have AIDS.

"It's just videogames." - Don't be shocked when your 10 year old shoots someone after playing San Andreas for 15 hours straight because you use the media as a babysitter. Certainly don't blame the game for your inept parenting.

Taboos and societal values exist for a reason, and not just because the Pope said it was so. They exist to PROTECT SOCIETY. They protect our children from harmful experiences that they are not ready to handle, like extreme violence, sexuality and drugs. They protect everyone from VD and unwanted preganancy.

Now is every taboo to respected? No, I personally believe that homosexuals should be treated equally as all others, but I also realize the reason why it is believed that they shouldn't: Its hard to procreate by banging a guys in the butt. But I also believe that the value of each taboo should be examined individually, and most should be maintained.

I'll be back later this weekend to discuss this more, as I'm sure I've pissed one or more members off. I might not be back until Monday, though. Full weekend.

Su-Yin · 06-10-2005, 10:44 PM

i personally feel disagreements and debates about how wrong this world is comes back down to one thing..."Human nature" for centuries people have tried to prove themselves right..or get others to look at things in thier perspective....greed for money or power which is instiled in us as human beings...people want to make thier voices heard...they feel good about themselves when people conform to thier ideas...so..inevitably...they voice thier opinions like thers no tmrw~this is the part where media is exploited for such reasons.... everyone is brought up differently...the majority of us have a "normal-sane and logical" way of behaving and thinking..and that makes us feel what the other "annoying and stupid" minority is doin; is wrong.....we might think they're stupid...and they think were uptight and stubborn...fundamentalists...liberals...religious groups...money-makers...etc....everyone just wants to be heard....this thread is being made so we could voice our opinions as well...wahts importnat to them/us may not be significant to another person.
thers nothing "wrong" wiht the world....although personally i feel there are many things in the world which should change for the better...thats just my point of view...not eveyrone else would be passionate about certain things which i am....if there really is one thing "wrong"...it could possibly be that everyone is different...our differences create conflicts in terms of...ideas...views...religions...etc.
But for people who do moraly incorrect things...(rape,incest,stealing,murder,etc.)...those are just sick bastards who need to be punished,degraded and taught to control their bad intentions and actions.

Stonecutter · 06-11-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

2) Green beans

HEY! FU*K YOU!

Stonecutter · 06-11-2005, 01:15 AM

On a slightly more serious note, I hate weather fascists, they're EVERYWHERE!

You get it every day with the weather on TV "bad news, temps are going to be dropping and the rain will be rolling in"

Bad news? Not unless it cancels a baseball game.

I do not like sunshine
I do not like warm weather
I LOVE rain, lots and lots of it
55 degrees is just about perfect

For whatever reason this somehow makes me weird.

What's even worse is hearing people bitch about the weather. You can't change it, nor can the weatherman, get this through your skulls.

Crono · 06-11-2005, 01:34 AM

Like Jonbo said, the media is what's wrong with the world.

They try to impose their own opinions on people, when only getting their facts straight 40% of the time, if that. I hate liberal media, and I hate neo-conservative media.

In fact I just hate all kinds of media period (tv shows, newspapers, music which tries to impose some kind of belief on you.. etc). Can a person even develop their own opinion these days? The majority of people base them off what they see on tv.