Star Wars *Spoilers*

[Swan]

I saw it this morning at about 9:30 for school, freakin' awesome. I knew within the first 10 minutes that I liked it more then the other two prequels. Some things bothered me though. I thought the battle with Grievous was a bit short. I also found it a bit annoying that the final battle was with two of the same colour lightsabers. I don't know why but it really bothered.

I have one question, what would happen if you pushed the buttons on Vaders chest?

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by deejzguy

I have one question, what would happen if you pushed the buttons on Vaders chest?

He would say one of the various recorded messages...

[Teuthida]

I shall watch it soon. Good quality it be.

[Acebot44]

Thank god nobody's flocking to the movies. I'll probably be seeing Friday Night/Saturday Morning or whatever you'd call 12:15. I love watching movies at night

[Crash]

the only thing that bothered me was the stupid lizard thing that sounded like a wounded dog.

i also knew within 10 minutes that it was better than the first two. I was surprised the the increased robot talk didn't annoy me and still was funny. great movie!

[Joeiss]

Originally Posted by deejzguy

I saw it this morning at about 9:30 for school, freakin' awesome. I knew within the first 10 minutes that I liked it more then the other two prequels. Some things bothered me though. I thought the battle with Grievous was a bit short. I also found it a bit annoying that the final battle was with two of the same colour lightsabers. I don't know why but it really bothered.

General Grievous is no match for a Jedi Master, that is why the light saber fight was as short as it was. Though Dooku trained Grievous well, Obiwan is just the man.

If anything, I thought the same coloured light saber fight was great. It showed that Anakin truly turned his back on the Jedi. Plus, Old Ben gives Anakin's saber to Luke in Episode IV, and it is blue, so they had to tie that in.

[Teuthida]

Just finished watching it. Better than I thought it would be.

In Cartoon Network's Clone Wars Grievious was a lot more fearsome and a much better fighter. He easily battled and killed four Jedi at once. Nor was he at all cowardly like in this movie.

Why are all droids such dweebs? I'll never understand.

The lizard's noises sounded like the aliens in Pitch Black that used sonar.

They have spaceships, lightsabers, and clone armies...yet they couldn't perform a c-section? If Anakin had a basic knowledge of medicine maybe he wouldn't have gone so crazy.

And the emperor is one ugly dude.

[Blackmane]

Padme didn't make it because of Anakin's anger. It choked the life out of her. Remember the doctor said that medically she was perfectly healthy, and they couldn't explain why she was dying. Then, when Vader awakens, the emperor tells him that he killed Padme in his anger. Thats what I think makes the whole thing so horribly ironic, Anakin was trying desperately to save Padme by getting stronger, but in the end, it was himself who he needed to save Padme from.

[Teuthida]

Yeah that's what I'm saying sort of. If Anakin didn't try to change things, everything would have worked out fine. So I guess fate is predetermined...

And I know its a staple of the series but I really can't stand the way Lucas makes transitions from scene to scene.

[Seth]

Thanks for the spoiler assholes.

[GameMaster]

I'm seeing it tomorrow morning while all the annoying kids are in school!

I can't wait! Soon I'm going to get the Darth Vader voice changer mask and the replica FX lightsaber!

[Bube]

I already learned 2 things I shouldn't have, and I just scrolled down.. I come into this thread for opinions, not spoilers. Please mark spoilers.

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by Happydude

seeing as how i haven't watched any of the other SW movies...or at least haven't payed attention when watching them, i don't think i'll be seeing this one until after i see the rest in the order that they were released....and that's not going to be anytime soon, i'm way too lazy to go rent them.

Just see the third movie. The other two aren't worth it, and Episode III's plot isn't so complicated that you need to see two whole other movies to understand it. In fact, all you need to know is:

Anakin (played by Hayden Christiansen) - he turns into Darth Vader. Right now, he's a regular Jedi.
Padme (played by Natalie Portman) - Anakin loves her. He loves her a lot.
Obi Wan Kenobi (played by Ewan McGregor) - He trained Anakin.
Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious (played by Ian Mcdiarmid) - he's EEEEEEEEEVIL.
General Grievous (voiced by some tech guy) - he's an organic thing in a droid or something like that, and he leads the droid army. Personally, I think he's doing this because he's mad about having such a silly name.
Count Dooku (played by Christopher Lee) - he's even more badass than Sarumon. Unfortunately, he doesn't stick around long enough to get mad about his even sillier name.
Clone Army (played by Temeura Morrison) - they're a bunch of clones of Boba Fett's dad. And they dress like Stormtroopers because, well, that's what they are.

There's also Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu, but he's just a dude on the council. And there's also Yoda, but you don't need to know his exact history or anything. You can just sit back and watch him doing the Yoda thing.

Anyway, I liked the movie overall, and I didn't really like the first two that much in the end. It has some great moments. The first shot of the two ships flying along and then looking downwards to see moviedom's most massive space battle was well done. The lightsaber battles got a little rote towards the end, but they were also well done. The Order 66 sequence was awesome to behold, and John Williams outdid himself with the music there (you may not be able to sing the music from that part right now, but I guarantee that music had an effect while you were watching it). Obi Wan's last words to Anakin were touching and hit all the right notes. Plus, all the fanservice was fun to watch (although it got annoying after a while because there was this one woman to my right who did three little happy claps every time she saw something she recognized from the original trilogy. Lady, it's just a guy named Antilles!).

Moreover, there was some actual good acting going on in here. It won't win any awards, but Ewan McGregor was channeling Sir Alec Guinness almost perfectly. And I am now convinced that the Force was at work when Ian McDiarmid was cast as the original Emperor in Return of the Jedi. They both have scenes that they knock totally out of the park.

Samuel L. Jackson, unfortunately, is still completely wasted.

Now about Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman: there will probably be some debate about how well either did their jobs. Personally, I think they can both act just fine. Check out Christiansen in Shattered Glass or Portman in Closer for which she received an Oscar nomination (and deserved it). These are two young people who can act and can even look like they love each other. But the dialogue they are forced to speak! More experienced actors can get their way around Lucas' dialogue, but it's too much for these two lovers. And I can't help remembering how interesting all the sparks and one liners flying between Princess Leia and Han Solo were.

Anakin's turn to the Dark Side also ended up being murkier than it had to be. The scene where he swears allegiance to Darth Sidious went too fast. He had just killed someone, and then Lucas has him suddenly kneel down and swear fealty. I ended up sort of understanding on an intellectual level why he become Darth Vader, but it all could have been much better developed and that scene in particular should have taken more time.

As for the infamous "NOOOOO!" line: yep. Cheesy. The thing is, that kind of thing has been done before. When Qui Gon Jinn was killed in The Phantom Menace, Obi Wan screamed out the same way. In that case, it worked just fine. Ok, so Ewan McGregor is a good actor. How about Mark Hamill? He had the same reaction to "Luke, I am your father." But that also worked just fine. Something about the delivery and the camera work when Darth Vader said it just made the whole thing seem hokey. I think Deathshand has the right idea when he proposes making the whole scene silent right after Vader hears about his wife's death. Or if he had to say the word "no," it could have been a quiet moment where he falls to his knees or something and just whispers it out in between breaths. It's a shame, really, because everything up until that moment was just done so well from Anakin being left in a volcano to Darth Sidious finding him and laying a hand on his forehead to the transformation of his body.

Oh, and I was also starting to get annoyed by the screen wipes that were going on. Those kinds of things make sense when you're switching plot lines, but not when you're cutting in between scenes back and forth.

Overall, it was a good movie and a fitting end to the trilogy. Let's hope Lucas doesn't get any ideas about filming episodes 7-9 (he says he won't). Lucas may be the premiere special effects wizard, but I'm certain that another director, almost any other, really, could have done a better job with the acting, the dialogue and the pacing. Still, this one isn't bad. It could have been grand and great. It could have been as legendary as one of the original movies. But instead, it's just good. Frankly, if this hadn't had the name Star Wars attached to it, I think it would have still drawn attention but also would have ended up being just another science fiction action adventure to be forgotten in a decade.

[GameMaster]

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I thought it was great. I have a new whole new respect for Obiwan in 4, 5, & 6 now that we've seen his part in 1, 2, & 3. I think Ewan McGregor should be edited into Obiwan's role in 4, 5, & 6.

And the arrogant ass award goes to... Mace Windu! Man, I was mentally clapping and rejoicing when Anakin sliced his arm off and Palpatine shocked the **** out of him. Through the whole movie, Mace is just bashing Anakin and telling all the Jedi how he doesn't trust him.

Mace is completley responsible for ensuring the Siths' revenge and the Jedis' downfall. If he hadn't been badmouthing Anakin from the day young Ani joined as a boy, the Council would've knighted him as a Master Jedi. Mace is a jealous piece of **** who is soley responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Jedi including Obiwan later, since Mace is the one who turned Anakin to the Dark Side.

Question: Why does using Force Lightining deform and age Palpatine?

I agree with other people on the absolute lack of onscreen chemistry between Natalie and Hayden. And not because they're bad actors, but because of the horrible writing. It was very hard for me to feel sorry for either one of them as the relationship crumbles because they just feel so not-in-love, for lack of a better word.

I thought Obiwan's lizard was cool. I hope he didn't die in that fall.

Another cool part was when Anakin totally thrashed Dooku's ass. Man, if I were Anakin, I would've spent a lot of time gloating after I cut his hands off. And instead of quickly taking his head off, I would've slowly inserted the lightsaber into his mouth and out the back of his head.

Darth Vader crying, "No" kind of kills his tough-guy persona but we have to remember that he's only been Darth Vader for a few minutes.

The movie is awesome. I might see it again.




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[Acebot44]

I thought the movie was ok. Hell, I'm not a Star Wars fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I was expecting this one to blow me away. Maybe my lack of experience in watching these films (Last time I watched the first trilogy was like 8 years ago and I never saw Clone Wars) set me up for something else.

I reeaaaallly dislike Lucas' segways or transitions or whatever you call them. 3 Parallel bars coming up from the bottom of the screen and fading into the next scene just got me out of the movie. The acting wasnt too great either, but that's nothing new to talk about. I never really got into the movies style.

But, I liked a lot of it. I couldnt keep up with the battles or anything, but it was enjoyable. I'd give it a 7 out of 10.

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