To those with both a DS and PSP... - Page 2

MuGen · 03-29-2005, 05:00 PM

Well this guy told me that both handhelds have depleted uranium in them and it makes the hair on your hand fall out...

lol... (winks at Dark Samurai)

Null · 03-29-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo

As soon as I start playing it my hands start to hurt. I think it's because the controls are right on the edges. The angle forces your thumbs in tight.

vertical ones always did that the worst to me, like the GBC and the GBA SP. i hated the vertical design,

i find with the horizontal ones you can hold them differently to make it more comfortable.

Like i dont hold it with the edges touching my palms or base of my thumbs, i first wrap my index fingers over the sides so they're touching the shoulder buttons first. my other fingers curl up underneth to give it suport, and then i can play with my thumbs fully extended cuz the unit sits higher up in my hand.

MuGen · 03-29-2005, 05:27 PM

I find the PSP to be more comfortable, but thats just me. Nintendo seems to think all their customers have small hands...

Dark Samurai · 03-29-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

Well this guy told me that both handhelds have depleted uranium in them and it makes the hair on your hand fall out...

lol... (winks at Dark Samurai)

HA!!! That was so funny, Sony, with their "ignorious" battery life compared to DS's.

Nintendo obviously has un-depleted uranium, making it the better handheld for the masses... Therefore the obvious choice...

(What you winking at me for?)

Jonbo298 · 03-29-2005, 06:42 PM

Both handhelds and have their strengths and weaknesses

DS obviously has touch screen, PSP has graphics and other various things. Both will do well. Nintendo will lose some market share but its a given. Both will live on forever.

Teuthida · 03-29-2005, 07:35 PM

Thanks for all the input guys.

Since some people said their hands felt cramped with the DS, how do you hold your system? Thumbs straight flat on the buttons or poised to attack like I do where the thumbs are bend and the tips press the buttons. I used to have a magazine that diagrammed all the ways one could hold a gameboy.

I actually like DS more as a system...but I need to play some of the games on PSP. Lumines, Mercury, and the like. (I'm a puzzle whore.) See, I would much rather these games be available for systems I already own. I would be buying PSP for games and not for the sake of the PSP whereas I think if I bought a DS it would be for the system and not so much because of the games.

Hmm, *takes a look at the list of PSP games out right now* Is Lumines worth buying a PSP for? All the other titles don't interest me in the least. And DS...well nothing on it interests me right now.

One more thing. On the train today two guys were talking about the PSP. Does Spiderman 2 (the movie on UMD) come bundled with it for free as they mentioned?

DarkMaster · 03-29-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danchastu

Hmm, *takes a look at the list of PSP games out right now* Is Lumines worth buying a PSP for? All the other titles don't interest me in the least. And DS...well nothing on it interests me right now.

One more thing. On the train today two guys were talking about the PSP. Does Spiderman 2 (the movie on UMD) come bundled with it for free as they mentioned?

Whether or not you'd think Lumines is worth buying a PSP for would depend on your financial status. However, I can tell you that the game is totally awesome, bordering on brilliant. If you've played and loved games like Rez, you'll have a pretty good idea of what to expect with Lumines. With these games, it's not just about the fun and exciting gameplay, it's also very much the experience. It's like therapy for the soul, they take you to a zen-like zone, with complete immersion into a fantastic world.

Yeah, I know, same people will say "it's a puzzle game, you drop squares and make noises", but its so much more if you can just go beyond the obvious.

Anywho.... Spide-Man 2 the movie comes bundled free with the PSP value pack.

DarrenMcLeod · 03-29-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster

Whether or not you'd think Lumines is worth buying a PSP for would depend on your financial status. However, I can tell you that the game is totally awesome, bordering on brilliant.

I want to play Lumines so bad. I also want to play the DS game Meteos, or whatever it is being developed by the same group.

Anyways, as far as the whole DS vs PSP thing goes, I think anyone would be out of their mind to say DS. As much as I love Nintendo, I'll admit that PSP is a far sexier beast. The games look better, and it sure isn't lacking in the software market like DS was/is (this is always nintendo's biggest fault... why can't they have more titles at launch?)

The only problem with PSP is the battery and price point, which are huge for me. I was looking at the PSP, and thought of how great it'd be to have one... then I realized I could get a PS2 and a few games for much cheaper. DS has such a good price that it probably is what I'll buy in the future when I have more money. I'm not spending $350 for a handheld system (Canadian price).

MuGen · 03-30-2005, 02:22 AM

I just wish people would stop complaining about the price...

$250 is a value pack price, do not compare it to the DS which is the solo package.

Sure you don't need all thats in the value pack, but thats what the price point is for the value package. Discrediting the PSP or Sony for the price point and comparing it to the 180 DS is ridiculous.

In Japan they released the PSP units, individually at $185. Now what do you think is a better buy DS $180 or PSP $185? I'm sure North America will eventually get their Solo packages.

DarrenMcLeod · 03-30-2005, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I just wish people would stop complaining about the price...

$250 is a value pack price, do not compare it to the DS which is the solo package.

Sure you don't need all thats in the value pack, but thats what the price point is for the value package. Discrediting the PSP or Sony for the price point and comparing it to the 180 DS is ridiculous.

In Japan they released the PSP units, individually at $185. Now what do you think is a better buy DS $180 or PSP $185? I'm sure North America will eventually get their Solo packages.

Where are you getting 180 for DS? It's 199 in Canada, and 150 in the states. Is that a launch price, or a store's bundle price?

And until there is a solo pack available in North America, the price point will be $250. And the price for DS will be $150. Plus, games for DS are (on average) 10 dollars cheaper (USD).

Whether you are willing to admit it or not, 100 dollars (150 in Canada) is a LOT of money, and price is an issue. I want to feel like I'm getting my money's worth when I buy a system. Rather than get a PSP with no games, I can get a DS and 3 games. That sounds pretty awesome to me as the consumer.

Battery life is also huge, because the main time I use a portable system is for road trips. If all I get is four hours of life out of a system, that's not very much at all for a lot of the travelling I do (mostly by car).

Canyarion · 03-30-2005, 05:16 AM

Danny, how bout Polarium for the DS? That sounds like right up your alley.

Null · 03-30-2005, 09:39 AM

I'm getting to be quite interested in Mercuy for psp, looks like a pretty cool puzzle type game.

and they're including the tilt sensor with the game last i heard.

price on psp, it has room to drop, but honestly, you get a lot more with it then when the DS package, so to me it feels like the extra money went into the extra things gotten with the package.

i've yet to hear anyone with a psp complain about batteries and yet to see any real issues with mine. went a couple days using it off and on and didnt get below 50% power. and for me thats using a handheld a lot. so i have no worries about future battery problems either.

MuGen · 03-30-2005, 11:08 AM

You had to raise the question about the games being $10 cheaper?

I'm sorry.... they may be cheaper, but have you SEEN the graphics on the PSP? I've had speculation, but ever since I actually played it....... no cmment

DarrenMcLeod · 03-30-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

You had to raise the question about the games being $10 cheaper?

I'm sorry.... they may be cheaper, but have you SEEN the graphics on the PSP? I've had speculation, but ever since I actually played it....... no cmment

Again, I was talking about price point, not graphics.

I'm not a graphics whore. I really don't care too much what games look like as long as they are some good fun. Do I think that the PSP blows away DS in the graphics department? Hell yes. But it doesn't make PSP games any cheaper, and that extra 10 dollars on a handheld system goes a long way.

As far as the "value" bundle that Null was talking about, there's nothing in there that I want. It's all unnecessary for me, and therefore it's not a value deal for me.

IGN's head to head between the two seemed to be really good to me... here's a good quote:

"So in theory, the Nintendo DS is a better portable system but the PSP is the better all-around system. This seems like a fair enough assessment and the final word we'll stick with."

That's basically my feelings.

MuGen · 03-30-2005, 04:39 PM

I'm not saying anything about being a graphics whore. You're not trying to understand my point. I'm not talking about graphics either, but I'm using it as a factor in my debate.

You say it's a turn off because PSP games are $10 more, and it goes a long way in handheld systems. I say, the PSP games are more expensive because they have better graphics.

Having better graphics, in turn makes development costs higher, making it $10 more. That is my arguement. I'm trying to explain WHY they are $10 more or higher.

For you it may not be, but a lot of people see the Value Pack as a good value. Sure, you may not want or need anything that comes with it, but that's no reason to say it's not a value pack. It's called a Value Pack because it has a lot of VALUE inside. 32mb memory sticks are around $20, Spiderman2 is $20, Carrying case $20, Earbuds $10. Making the package $70 more then a solo pack (180+70 = $250)

Now if you were to buy all those (if you wanted) seperately..... you'd pay a lot more in taxes... there fore making it a VALUE PACK. It's like a McDonalds Value Meal....... no one needs Fries and a Drink... but it's good to just get one thing or order one thing and have a lot more.