Unfair Judgements

[GameMaster]

If you saw me lying on a couch wearing sweat pants and eating potato chips directly out of the bag, would you naturally assume that I was a lazy, pathetic loser?

If you asnwered yes, you've come to right place.
If you answered no, then confront me in an angry manner.

What other unfair judgements have you or someone you know made about someone else based on something like their appearance?

And if you don't want to use real names, feel free to substitute with default names like Fred and Herman. But make it obvious enough so that we know it's really you and you just don't want us to know it was you.

[Dyne]

Commonly known as.. stereotypes.

My friend did a speech on stereotypes this year. She made it to the finals, and won $100, too. After her great speech, I don't really have anything to say about stereotypes... O_O

[DimHalo]

Originally Posted by Dyne

Commonly known as.. stereotypes.

My friend did a speech on stereotypes this year. She made it to the finals, and won $100, too. After her great speech, I don't really have anything to say about stereotypes... O_O

Care to elaborate about her speech?

[bobcat]

I'm not a very judgemental person because I wouldn't like to be judged the same way by others.

So I'm a very easy going person.............what?



Even if I see a homeless person I don't think "oh yuck that's disgusting", I try to be like "I wonder how that person got like that?". More interested in the "why" than the "is". Or something

[Canyarion]

I discussed this yesterday with some friends. It was about outlanders in Holland, how they seem to misbehave more than native ppl. Even though they have a higher % of criminality, you can't say they're all criminals.... that's VERY wrong.

'But you don't look like someone with prejudgements!' Loesje

[Rndm_Perfection]

Judgment (notice the lack of "e" after "g") can be good, if just. People need to know how to read signs. If "looks can be deceiving", where the hell did we get our first impressions? It's one of those, "don't let history repeat itself" situations. I'm not saying we should descriminate against involuntary attributes (race, shape, size, gender... so forth), but rather actions.

Sitting on a couch and watching t.v. whilst eating chips can be seen as a sign of sloth. In no way is it unfair, as those can safely be defined as lazy attributes. Odds are you have a remote, are eating straight out of the bag, and don't have a tray or even paper towel to wipe your greasy hands.

Actions speak loud, but we have no need to jump to conclusions.

And Dyne, that's the type of material that critics like to eat up. Anything that deals with current issues (especially that with equal rights or abortion). Not saying your friend made a poor essay... just that she could've made a poor essay and still had a chance at winning. Just gotta know what to write.

[Happydude]

yeah...im more like bobby over there

[Dyne]

Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

And Dyne, that's the type of material that critics like to eat up. Anything that deals with current issues (especially that with equal rights or abortion). Not saying your friend made a poor essay... just that she could've made a poor essay and still had a chance at winning. Just gotta know what to write.

Stereotypes are not "in." Half the bull**** speeches I got to mark this year were about judgement in one form or another.. and they weren't very enthralling.

She won because of she presented it. She had perfect eye contact and a good speaking voice.. not to mention her pace was awesome. That sums up half the marks right there. The other half is making sense out of your topic, and coming on a logical conclusion or prediction on it. The speech was complete induction, too, so it was a nice change of pace. She didn't even mention the word "stereotypes" until the end.

I'll see if I can get her .doc speech tonight. She'll probably let me read it.

The person who came in second place was complaining about a course we have up here called "Career and Personal Planning." This was a good topic; it explained why we were having our time wasted. Perfect rant in every way.. but that's that-- it was a rant. He accidently downgraded some teachers in the audience who taught this, as well. However, his eyes were all over the paper, and he didn't mantain a very good speaking level--which is why he crapped out and got second. Dylflon actually gave him a standing ovation at the end of the speech. It was supposed to be a bunch of people, actually; he happened to be the only one that stood up after all. :P

Speech topics can be about crap. What matters is that it's not a summary of anything, and you have it practiced and memorized. My friend happened to have good crudentials on both terms.

[Rndm_Perfection]

Defending yourself as usual, aren't you Dyne? Quick to conclusions as always.


Read carefully:

Not saying your friend made a poor essay... just that she could've made a poor essay and still had a chance at winning.

Obviously, there is more to an essay than topic. I even went out of my way to show that I had no clue how good her essay was, rather that I found it to be no coincidence that she used one of the favored topics. Show me a little more respect and don't take me for a dumbass with quick assumptions. Yes indeed, there is the word ASS in assumption. - rep.

Believe it or not, some topics are more appealing to judges than others. I trust you can grasp that concept without lashing out .

Stereotyping is a very current issue. Why else would a GAMING FORUM member bring it up? Obviously, it has quite a wide stretched hand. Judges love a essay writer to tackle current and difficult subjects. I find it hard to believe that you disagree with that truth.

She didn't even mention the word "stereotypes" until the end.

and...

My friend did a speech on stereotypes this year.

*flails arms around in confusion* Good thing I'm Sherlock and investigated the issue before believing that the base of her story was stereotyping!

Stereotypes are not "in." .... Speech topics can be about crap. What matters is that it's not a summary of anything, and you have it practiced and memorized. My friend happened to have good crudentials on both terms.

You, sir, are a gen-u-ine imbecile. That quote completely negates any arguement you had against what I commented on. You claim that what it takes to win an essay competition is readability! That, combined with your distorted belief that judges don't care about current issues such as Stereotyping makes an even poorer image of her essay than what you ASSUMED I had created! I almost can't believe you even used that in part of your arguement. GAH... boggles the mind.


I lose the feint respect I have for you. From now on, I dare not even try. Good day to you, may you fix your image in my mind another day by giving consideration when reading my posts.

[Dyne]

I didn't know you had any respect for me, Rndm_Perfection.

As for your first words to me, specifically: Critics OR judges do not "eat this stuff up," or so you're lead to believe. I hate this stuff, I have apprehended to hate this stuff by my very own teachers, and topics do not matter. Elaboration matters. They DO NOT EAT THIS STUFF UP.

As for the stereotype at the end bit: Induction is otherwise known as making a conclusion based on prior experience or told stories. She classified this "judgement" as "stereotypes." Of course, if you'd taken some higher level literature courses, you'd know that. The word "stereotype" did not grace this speech until the very end, which hid her topic quite well, but we knew basically what it was about, because she explained her point of view so well.

Most of what's been heard by a judge has been heard a hundred times. The appeal has vanished. Elaboration matters, stereotypes do not matter, putting it into context matters, topics do not matter, judges dont eat this stuff up at high levels, and so ends my point of view.

GameMaster brought it up as judgement. For this topic, there are a ton of other issues that could have been done, explained, or enlighted with. Virtually, every single topic, aside from summaries, have been done, in one form or another, somewhere on the Internet, and the world. Again, only elaboration matters. All topics have been worn out. Recycling is what keeps the earth going around, the end. I didnt even want to touch on this subject because Ive been worn out by speeches that I have listened to OVER AND OVER. I quoth myself saying that there was a very good speech this year. That was about it.

Do you want some better glasses to see? You can "lash back at me" with some Grade 7 quotes if you wish. You should have looked at the first paragraph in the response I wrote to you, and you might have seen "ELABORATION IS BETTER, TOPIC DOESNT MATTER, STEREOTYPES IS A STUPID TOPIC, BUT IVE SEEN IT DONE WELL" in big bold letters over the entire response. Or, better yet, I could give you a translation at the end of every post to clue you in, maybe. Or, you do not even have to try. Its quite apparent you have no respect for me and you take offence at whatever I write.. save your quoting-offence for someone more worthy, other than this ruffian.

EDIT: Thus ends this 40,000th post in the General Forum. Kudos.