Mass Effect 3 Ending Discussion

BreakABone · 03-12-2012, 06:52 PM

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Just beat it, I guess ill wait a bit before throwing down my opinion on it.

Being as vague as possible.

Do you have a problem with the ending?
Seems to be a lot of backlash against Bioware/EA for that. Even as far as gamers setting up petitions to get Bioware to change it.

Combine 017 · 03-12-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Being as vague as possible.

Do you have a problem with the ending?
Seems to be a lot of backlash against Bioware/EA for that. Even as far as gamers setting up petitions to get Bioware to change it.

What a shitty ending to one of the greatest stories ive experienced. It leaves so much un-answered and just destroys a lot of the mood the other games built up. It doesnt explain what happens to anyone other than implying what happens to the crew of the Normandy(which I dont even know why they were in that situation in the first place. Seriously, wtf?). I spent all this time uniting a divided galaxy, bringing everyone together to face this threat as one force, but now the galaxy is more separated than ever before, not to mention that a majority of every alien races defence is left in the Sol system. Theres just no happy endings here, and thats really all I wanted to see, even if it was just a cliche ending like "you saved the galaxy, heres some medals and an award ceremony followed by kissing your lover, the end" It was just a really disappointing ending that they could have so very easily made better instead of retarded. Uhg.

Vampyr · 03-12-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Being as vague as possible.

Do you have a problem with the ending?
Seems to be a lot of backlash against Bioware/EA for that. Even as far as gamers setting up petitions to get Bioware to change it.

Jesus Christ, what a horrible idea.

"Good ending DLC, only $10!"

Fox 6 · 03-12-2012, 08:15 PM

Well there are 16 endings. Is that not enough?

Vampyr · 03-12-2012, 08:18 PM

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Well there are 16 endings. Is that not enough?

Evidently not. I guess there is some overarching plot line that people don't like, regardless of which ending you choose? Maybe the endings only have subtle differences.

BreakABone · 03-12-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

Evidently not. I guess there is some overarching plot line that people don't like, regardless of which ending you choose? Maybe the endings only have subtle differences.

From what I gather there are 3 "main" endings with some minor variations.

Fox 6 · 03-12-2012, 08:34 PM

well I know for a fact right off the bat it matters if you saved the collector base in ME2, which splits the endings right up the middle, so it cant be 3 endings.

Combine 017 · 03-13-2012, 06:12 PM

It sucked.

Combine 017 · 03-13-2012, 06:47 PM

Im just going to re-post what I said before about the ending now that I dont have to hide it in spoiler thingers.

What a shitty ending to one of the greatest stories ive experienced. It leaves so much un-answered and just destroys a lot of the mood the other games built up. It doesnt explain what happens to anyone other than implying what happens to the crew of the Normandy(which I dont even know why they were in that situation in the first place. Seriously, wtf?). I spent all this time uniting a divided galaxy, bringing everyone together to face this threat as one force, but now the galaxy is more separated than ever before, not to mention that a majority of every alien races defence is left in the Sol system. Theres just no happy endings here, and thats really all I wanted to see, even if it was just a cliche ending like "you saved the galaxy, heres some medals and an award ceremony followed by kissing your lover, the end" It was just a really disappointing ending that they could have so very easily made better instead of retarded. Uhg.

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There were several other, minor things I wish Mass Effect/Bioware took away from Alpha Protocol.

Choices aren't Good/Evil, Paragon/Renegade.. even when dealing with different people being a too good, could make them hate you while being a jerk earns their respect or even having a 3rd option.

Mass Effect does do that, maybe not as much, but you sure as hell couldnt be "nice" to Wrex in ME1. Same with Jack in ME2, being nice to her got you no where.

Ginkasa · 03-14-2012, 02:46 AM

I don't personally mind the lack of super happy endings. A horde of invincible apocalyptic Cthulhu robots invading from the dark space between galaxies is not going to end well no matter how Paragon your Shepard is. A bittersweet ending is okay. I also don't really see ME3's ending as "dark" as a lot of people are saying. The final image of Joker and EDI standing together to face the dawn of a new synthorganic future seemed pretty optimistic to me. Sure, the galaxy was not the same you one in ME1, but again, Cthulhu robots and all... Bound to happen.

If you can't tell, I also didn't really mind the details of the ending either. Blending organics and synthetics together (which is the ending I chose) seemed to make some sense on a thematic level and fit fairly well with the rest of the series. I don't know about anyone else, but my Shepard would totally choose that option (I saved the Geth and the Quarians and might have even chosen the Geth over the Quarians if forced... maybe). I didn't mind the choices or that they were there.

I don't even mind the lack of a "and here's a list of how your choices mattered in the years to come" epilogue like in DA:O. I felt my choices flavored the story at least (even if it may not have drastically changed it as some had hoped for) which is enough for me.

My issue is that the star child thing and choices itself came out of no where and felt really surreal. The series was based on a more or less realistic feeling universe. Everything in the series pointed to a more or less conventional "robots go boom" type ending. To have the origin of the Reapers suddenly thrust on us with barely any explanation and a lot of extrapolation and asking us to make some choice with forces that don't make much sense just really flies in the face of the rest of the series. The tone of it just doesn't fit with the tone of everything else. It borders on mystical which the rest of the series was not. If the game had ended with Anderson and Shepard talking (and probably dying) and the reapers blowing up with everything else mostly the same (Mass Relays 'splodin' and all) I'd have probably been more satisfied.

End coda, however, I'm not nearly as unhappy about the ending as a lot of people are. I was a little disappointed, but I'm actually already planning a full trilogy run through soon (with a FemShep!), so it clearly doesn't bother me that much.

Combine 017 · 03-14-2012, 03:21 AM

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I don't personally mind the lack of super happy endings. A horde of invincible apocalyptic Cthulhu robots invading from the dark space between galaxies is not going to end well no matter how Paragon your Shepard is. A bittersweet ending is okay.

I wouldnt have minded a bittersweet ending either, but there was no sweetness to it at all. It left so much unanswered.

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I also don't really see ME3's ending as "dark" as a lot of people are saying. The final image of Joker and EDI standing together to face the dawn of a new synthorganic future seemed pretty optimistic to me. Sure, the galaxy was not the same you one in ME1, but again, Cthulhu robots and all... Bound to happen.

Ya I didnt find the ending dark, maybe those people got the ending where Earth is destroyed? But speaking of Joker and the Normandy, why was it in a Mass Relay jump in the first place? Wasnt it around Earth? And what about everyone else? What happened to Admiral Hackett, or all your other squad mates who should have been on Earth, or the Synth reapers, did they just chill around Earth now?

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If you can't tell, I also didn't really mind the details of the ending either. Blending organics and synthetics together (which is the ending I chose) seemed to make some sense on a thematic level and fit fairly well with the rest of the series. I don't know about anyone else, but my Shepard would totally choose that option (I saved the Geth and the Quarians and might have even chosen the Geth over the Quarians if forced... maybe). I didn't mind the choices or that they were there.

Ya, I would have chosen the Geth over the Quarians, I was so sad when Legion sacrificed himself. I think the synthorganic option was the best one.

And one more thing about the crew of the Normandy on that uncharted planet. The human portion of the crew wasnt that big, not big enough to support a new colony of humans without inbreeding, so assuming Liara made it there, does that mean everyone on that planet would eventually be Asari?

Ginkasa · 03-14-2012, 05:44 AM

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I wouldnt have minded a bittersweet ending either, but there was no sweetness to it at all. It left so much unanswered.

Ya I didnt find the ending dark, maybe those people got the ending where Earth is destroyed? But speaking of Joker and the Normandy, why was it in a Mass Relay jump in the first place? Wasnt it around Earth? And what about everyone else? What happened to Admiral Hackett, or all your other squad mates who should have been on Earth, or the Synth reapers, did they just chill around Earth now?

Ya, I would have chosen the Geth over the Quarians, I was so sad when Legion sacrificed himself. I think the synthorganic option was the best one.

And one more thing about the crew of the Normandy on that uncharted planet. The human portion of the crew wasnt that big, not big enough to support a new colony of humans without inbreeding, so assuming Liara made it there, does that mean everyone on that planet would eventually be Asari?

Wizard did it.

Combine 017 · 03-14-2012, 03:11 PM

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Wizard did it.

Hahaha, alright, that explains everything.

Perhaps it was a space wizard, or some sort of magic fight wizard...

Bond · 03-16-2012, 10:30 PM

Combine 017 · 03-17-2012, 04:21 AM

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The final choice consists of 3 options that don't take into account your paragon/renegade score. Despite the choices, every ending consists of galaxy wide mass relay explosions and Joker is suddenly away from the battle and crash lands on some unknown planet. Also plot holes such as how was it possible that the squad mates you chose to go into the final mission ended up on the stranded Normandy in the end makes things confusing. Furthermore, the inevitable destruction of the Mass Relays renders all of the decisions that the player has made throughout the series, and has become invested in, inconsequential. i.e., whether the Quarians retake their homeworld or not, it doesn't matter, because no one will be able to travel out of Earth's solar system back to their homeworlds again without the use of the Mass Relays.

Looks like there are oodles of people mad about this as well. Im not alone!