Final fantasy 13 question

TheGame · 06-06-2010, 02:41 PM

I seen all the old threads about FF, but I couldn't decide which one to bump... so just making one of my own.

I just have a question about the crystal grid. I'm only about 5ish hours into the game (maybe further). So far I've been able to easilly max every character on every grid with minimal grinding. I was just wondering for a first-time speed playthrough... does it make sence to keep grinding til I max everyone on every grid??

I've been thinking about just switching everyone to only having one DPS role, one support role, and having a couple of people have medic roles. That way when I recieve an extension to the grids they specialize in, I can max them out quickly from the gate.

I'm not sure what to expect later in the game, but should I be maximizing everyone in everything until the end to make the game a breeze? Or in the long run will it be easier if I minimize the amount of roles my characters play?

I really just want to see the story on this run, the next run I'll worry about getting exotic weapons etc.

DarkMaster · 06-06-2010, 06:52 PM

I'd say just play through it and don't bother grinding, you don't need to. Some bosses are shit hard, but the right strategy will beat them. Just fight the enemies you encounter along the way for exp.

TheGame · 06-06-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster

I'd say just play through it and don't bother grinding, you don't need to. Some bosses are shit hard, but the right strategy will beat them. Just fight the enemies you encounter along the way for exp.

So with that said, when I cap out on a level on one of the crystal grid thingies.... should I start putting my points into other trees, or should I just specialize and save for one or two grids per character?

uber_paddler · 06-06-2010, 08:49 PM

Naw dude, once you max out one tree in a level you might as well dump your points into some of the other categories. I've been doing that and haven't run into any problems yet (ok, well I ran into one boss that was an asshole, but I don't think that had anything to do with my point distribution). But then I'm only about 30 hours in, too, so that could change.

TheSlyMoogle · 06-06-2010, 11:09 PM

My advice:

Eventually all characters can become all classes. It is at this point that you only continue to pump points into their 3 innates:

Snow - Ravager, Commando and Sentinel
Lightning - Ravager, Commando and Medic
Hope - Ravager, Medic and Synergist
Sazh - Ravager, Commando and Synergist
Vanille - Ravager, Medic and Saboteur
???? - Sentinel, Commando and Saboteur

So yeah. You can max those grids through the main game with little to no issue, but the 3 classes that each do not have innately, they're a bitch to level and aren't worth it.

If you really want to power through the game, go with a party of Lightning, Hope and ????

Also there's a really baller trick to the ATB and Paradigm shifting that makes the game a bit more fun, that I will divulge if you want to know how to do it.

TheGame · 06-06-2010, 11:17 PM

Thanks for the Advice... I'll use that for my first run haha. And thanks for hiding the name of whoever else is in the group, cause I really don't know who they are yet.

Also, you can PM me the trick if you'd like.

TheGame · 06-07-2010, 12:33 AM

I wish I had more time to play this game.. been playing it almost all day, and feel like I got nowhere.

Typhoid · 06-07-2010, 04:21 PM

To touch on what John said, sure they can become all classes, if you grind all the time. And he admittedly did a lot of grinding.

If you just play through the game normally, they won't max everything out.
My advice would be not to freely spend all your CP just as soon as you get it, unless you find yourself in a tough spot and need the boost, but even then, be smart about it.

I'm 70+ hours in (Almost at the end), I haven't done any type of grinding, and my guys have only maxed their normal classes, and I just started working on a couple extra classes for each.

And I even spent a couple hours running around doing nothing but killing stuff.

TheGame · 06-11-2010, 01:55 AM

I'm at the part where 4 people from the team unite, and you go to Hope's home... well I'm just past that part, they switched me back to the remaining two people's group (in the "city of dreams" or w/e).

The intensity of the battles seem to be picking up some. I guess I should start using all these left over mats I have and start upgrading people besides Lightning lol

Thanks for the tips...I'll try to work things out. For now I have to lean towards Sly's side and say that this item upgrade system is kinda lame. The mix of it not being nessicary, and being very complicated just doesn't sit well with me. For now anyway... I guess we'll see lol

TheGame · 06-11-2010, 01:21 PM

Brynhildr fight sucks

TheSlyMoogle · 06-12-2010, 06:30 PM

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Brynhildr fight sucks

Truth. The only battles in the game that gave me any problems were the summon fights. Bryn is the worst.

However it's all about building the gestalt meter so the best way to do that is to sling spells at bryn. I do believe you can make a dual ravager paradigm right now. Good luck.

TheGame · 06-12-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

Truth. The only battles in the game that gave me any problems were the summon fights. Bryn is the worst.

However it's all about building the gestalt meter so the best way to do that is to sling spells at bryn. I do believe you can make a dual ravager paradigm right now. Good luck.

That's what I did to beat him... I was timing it and found that I could barely make it if I kept switching between Ravager-Ravager and Ravager-Medic.

I used some item to give my group haste and some other buff before the fight, and went in and just spammed magic, and BARELY made it.

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I think the reason avatar fights are harder is the time limit. Some of the hardest fights in the game you can take your sweet time. Even though the trash fights get you in a mindset where you think you have to kill things fast... all the boss fights I've been in, I think I could have held the boss there for an hour if I wanted to.

TheSlyMoogle · 06-13-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

That's what I did to beat him... I was timing it and found that I could barely make it if I kept switching between Ravager-Ravager and Ravager-Medic.

I used some item to give my group haste and some other buff before the fight, and went in and just spammed magic, and BARELY made it.

-EDIT-

I think the reason avatar fights are harder is the time limit. Some of the hardest fights in the game you can take your sweet time. Even though the trash fights get you in a mindset where you think you have to kill things fast... all the boss fights I've been in, I think I could have held the boss there for an hour if I wanted to.

Oh yeah the game is real easy when you break it down. Shit you could have 2 medics and a commando if you wanted and just mash a for 30 minutes and never die. The thing that makes battles hard is striving for the 5 stars. Which is pointless because it doesn't do anything for you except get you drops which is unimportant in itself.

TheGame · 06-13-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

Oh yeah the game is real easy when you break it down. Shit you could have 2 medics and a commando if you wanted and just mash a for 30 minutes and never die. The thing that makes battles hard is striving for the 5 stars. Which is pointless because it doesn't do anything for you except get you drops which is unimportant in itself.

Right, especially not in the hard fights.

Like the fight with that helicopter thing with the rail guns before chapter 9... I got completly out of the "kill fast" mindset. Most of that fight I has sentinal, medic, and commando.... and when we were getting pounded, sentinal, medic, medic. I still think I managed to get some stars out of the fight too, with just lightning solo damaging it...

Bond · 06-13-2010, 10:43 AM

I should really try to finish this game again... ugh.