Is There a Bad Mario Game?

BreakABone · 02-14-2009, 03:43 PM

This is an IGN article that examines the mainline series (I'm sure the debate would be pretty easy if you opened it up to spin-offs and stuff) but this just looks at the core titles.

http://retro.ign.com/articles/954/954165p1.html

BlueFire · 02-14-2009, 05:33 PM

Bad Mario game? Super Mario Sunshine!

thatmariolover · 02-14-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BLueFire

Bad Mario game? Super Mario Sunshine!

I wish people wouldn't hate on Mario Sunshine so hard. Admittedly, it is my least favorite Mario game. But I honestly don't think it's a bad game in the least. It was the least accessible, mainly because the concept behind it was Japanese-type weird, and not in the charming way that so many Japanese concepts are.

It was still a very solid platformer, and I would argue that one fact in and of itself saves it from being a bad game. It's an fantastic execution of a bad concept.

Jonbo298 · 02-14-2009, 06:23 PM

In terms of "Core" Mario games, it can be a near tie between SMB2 and Sunshine. Sunshine still was overall a good game but the idea didn't pan out like it could have. SMB2 just because the US version was way out of left field...

Dylflon · 02-15-2009, 02:18 AM

Super Mario Brothers 2, Sunshine, many of the spin-offs.

BreakABone · 02-15-2009, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

Super Mario Brothers 2, Sunshine, many of the spin-offs.

We aren't counting spin-offs because the site didn't count spinoff.

I don't get the hate for Sunshine and SMB 2 though. Sunshine until Galaxy had one of my favorite boss battles (the rollercoaster ride) as long as some awesome substages with the platforming bit. Granted, the game was like a re-tread of SM64 with a way too large overworld, but still enjoyable.

SMB 2 I know gets hate for being so different, but I mean taking at the time there were only two games.. its only when you compare it to 3 and World.

GameMaster · 02-15-2009, 02:39 AM

Considering that most of us here were 2 years of age or younger at the time of Super Mario Bros. 2, I think it's laughable that anybody would list it as a bad game.

No one here had the credibility or capability to assess it.

And no, revisiting the game in the future does not count. You cannot review an old game in the future.

The minimum age for being able to review a game: 10 years of age

Super Mario Bros. 2 release date: 1988 North America, 1989 Europe, 1992 Japan

Anyone born after 1978 offering an opinion of Super Mario Bros. 2: Disqualified!

Angrist · 02-16-2009, 05:54 AM

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Considering that most of us here were 2 years of age or younger at the time of Super Mario Bros. 2, I think it's laughable that anybody would list it as a bad game.[b]

Nonsense. I played it a lot when I was about 8-10. And after that.
And I didn't hate it.

I guess the least favorite has to be SMS, even though it was still pretty fun.

Dyne · 02-16-2009, 11:08 PM

Super Mario Sunshine was full of great gameplay. I don't know what rating scale people use when they say "bad", but I consider it really good for what it was. I even prefer it to Galaxy in some regards.

I honestly don't know how you can call something bad when there's a million stinkers out there. On Gamecube alone, you have Shadow the Hedgehog, Viewtiful Joe: Red Hot Rumble, Geist, Turok: Evolution, Virtua Quest, Charlie's Angels, and Pokemon Channel. Those are bad. Mario Sunshine? Disappointing, at best. Bad? No.

Honestly, I think people were just craving more after Luigi's Mansion. And Luigi's Mansion was great on its own. People just wanted more.

gekko · 02-17-2009, 12:27 PM

I don't see the problem with Mario Sushine. Not enough platforming? Maybe, but the game was great (story aside, I played the Japanese version and didn't get any of it).

Dylflon · 02-17-2009, 01:03 PM

Did you make this thread to ask our opinions of what Mario games we didn't like solely so you could disagree with us any time we offered a negative opinion of a Mario game?

Zen · 02-15-2009, 01:16 PM

Well I was at least 7 when i got to play it, cus i remember getting it along with smb 3, and if smb 3 came out in 1990 i was at least 7, assuming i got it that same year.... so even though i am disqualified by your standards, i still loved super mario brothers 2, granted i only gave it a chance cus i lost smb 3 for about a month in some old drawers.

gekko · 02-16-2009, 01:07 AM

Galaxy.

BreakABone · 02-16-2009, 01:17 AM

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Galaxy.

If I had a way to reach through the monitor and strangle someone, this would be the perfect time to use this.

GameMaster · 02-17-2009, 11:34 PM

I guess we could shrug with my mindless indifference to each other's opinions.

Yes, that is far more attractive than a little passionate disagreement.