Different Name, Same Crap

Professor S · 05-14-2002, 12:37 PM

It didn't take long for the WWF, er, WWE to screw up the NWO again. The downfall of the NWO in the first place was when WCW started shoving all the talent that they had no idea what to do with into the NWO. Now the WWF, DAMN, WWE is doing the same thing.

Booker T doesn;t have a program?... Well, just shove him in the NWO. They did the same thing with The Big Show. Before you know it your going to see Stevie Ray walkng around recruiting Perry Saturn for the "B" Team.

What made the NWO great to begin with was that they always had a purpose, even in WCW. That was to bring down the establishment. Now they "ARE" the establishment fighting against the subversive Redneck? What the hell is going on there?

But hey... Its only pro wrestling... it doesn't have to MAKE SENSE right?

TheGame · 05-14-2002, 12:57 PM

Booker T joined the nWo???

*runs to WWE.com*

Perfect Stu · 05-14-2002, 04:21 PM

the WWE sucks

Hogan vs. Undertaker main event?

Why not have guys like Jericho, Angle, Rock, Edge, HHH (guys that are entertaining to watch) main eventers?

any bets on the JD main event? I'm betting at least one hernia and a broken hip...

nWoCHRISnWo · 05-18-2002, 07:37 PM

Sure it's been sucking a lot lately, but I also like a lot of it.

For example, the PPV's. The last three PPV's (counting Judgment Day, I'll explain soon) have all been entertaining to me. Wrestlemania 18 was one of my favourite WWF PPV's ever. Backlash had RVD/Guererro and Angle/Edge. Judgment Day has the RVD/Guerrero rematch, Angle/Edge rematch, plus the first HIAC match in a while and Hogan/Undertaker (I'll adress this soon as well).

So I've been liking the PPV's lately, and secondly Hogan as been everything I could have asked for. Sure he's not the technical master every wrestler should be (

), but tell that to the fans who attended the last Smackdown. Or the fans at Wrestlemania 18, or any of the fans who go to live events. It's obvious you're not getting the best 'wrestling' matches from Hogan, so why expect it? If you wanna see all technical, great wrestling matches watch Japanese wrestling where you'll see more of it, or enjoy Angle's, Guerrero's, and Benoit's matches. Hogan is the absolute biggest reason why WWF (err, WWE) is even around right now. Him having the title one last time is enough to warrant comitting suicide according to a lot of "smart" marks, but in reality no one gives a **** what you have to think.

Anyhoo, I'm aslo enjoying Brock destroying people right now, and I can't wait to see who the Hurricane's mystery enemy will be (Nova?). Add that to the fact that the Cruiserweigh division actually exists now, and the only thing people can do is complain?

If you want to complain about something, complain about Austin single-handedly ****ing over the nWo angle, the Rock keeping his prioreties straight, or Vinny Mac being an idiot.

Bond · 05-18-2002, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
Sure it's been sucking a lot lately, but I also like a lot of it.

For example, the PPV's. The last three PPV's (counting Judgment Day, I'll explain soon) have all been entertaining to me. Wrestlemania 18 was one of my favourite WWF PPV's ever. Backlash had RVD/Guererro and Angle/Edge. Judgment Day has the RVD/Guerrero rematch, Angle/Edge rematch, plus the first HIAC match in a while and Hogan/Undertaker (I'll adress this soon as well).

So I've been liking the PPV's lately, and secondly Hogan as been everything I could have asked for. Sure he's not the technical master every wrestler should be ( ), but tell that to the fans who attended the last Smackdown. Or the fans at Wrestlemania 18, or any of the fans who go to live events. It's obvious you're not getting the best 'wrestling' matches from Hogan, so why expect it? If you wanna see all technical, great wrestling matches watch Japanese wrestling where you'll see more of it, or enjoy Angle's, Guerrero's, and Benoit's matches. Hogan is the absolute biggest reason why WWF (err, WWE) is even around right now. Him having the title one last time is enough to warrant comitting suicide according to a lot of "smart" marks, but in reality no one gives a **** what you have to think.

Anyhoo, I'm aslo enjoying Brock destroying people right now, and I can't wait to see who the Hurricane's mystery enemy will be (Nova?). Add that to the fact that the Cruiserweigh division actually exists now, and the only thing people can do is complain?

If you want to complain about something, complain about Austin single-handedly ****ing over the nWo angle, the Rock keeping his prioreties straight, or Vinny Mac being an idiot.

What did happen with The Rock? I never followed that...

I think Kurt Angle has been getting screwed lately, but I think that's on the count of that the WW'F' has so much talent and so little time.

Violence Fight · 05-18-2002, 09:49 PM

Reasons I'm pissed at the WWE:

1. Dudley Boy Break up-You take one of the BEST tag teams in the united states of america. With the most charisma and best mic skills. And break them up. YOU ARE DUMB!

2. The toning down of Tazz to the point where he annouces-Taz, used to be a vicious vicious man. Now look at him, he's lucky if htey let him use a belly to belly suplexes. GOne are the glory days of Side head and arm tazplexes.

3. resurgence of the nWo-Beating a dead horse. Period.

4. Resurgence of Hulk Hogan-Plain and simple, he sucked in WCW, he sucks in the WWF, and the fans know it.

5. Splitting talent pools-Just find a way to get WCW on another channel!

6. Kevin Kelly-Do I need to say more?

7. Abuse of Taka Michinoku/Shojichi Funaki-THey have talent..therefor they job

8. Stephanie McMahon on the Writing Squad-She sucks, and her answer to low ratings is to put herself on TV.

9. Hurricane Helms-Come on, We all wanted a Three Count/Hardyz feud. Helms and Moore could've given Jeff/Matt a run for their cash.

10. Mark Henry-Hes back. And hes got long nappy hair. Shoot me please.

TO right these wrongs, WWE would need alot of help.

I.B.Violence
(The I.B. stands for Ineveloping Barbwire)

Professor S · 05-18-2002, 11:02 PM

Well the problem is that Hogan does suck, but the fans don't CARE. Never underestimate the power of the casual mullet-headed Budweiser swilling mark. And no, by saying that I don't consider myself a smart. I just would like to see the WW"E" look to the future instead of wading in past glories of wrestlers far past their prime. By keeping Hogan as the champ, they are hanging on to the fans that probably would stick around anyway, but they aren't winning any new fans, and the ratings prove this.

Now saying that, I do like the way they are trying to push new blood like Lesnar and Orton (If you remember I actually called for them to be brought up a while back, thankyouverymuch). I actually would have brought them both in with Heyman plus bring in Leviathan and have them make a heel Stable. That way they could give them some high profile matches right off the bat without killing any heat on guys like Austin or Hogan by making the matches end with run-ins. The whole storyline could be that since they were "getting held back" from a shot at the big time, they were going to take it.

As for the NWO, if you blame Austin for the failure you're grabbing at straws. The fans didn't care from the get go. Why do you think Hogan left so quick? Now the NWO has already degraded to the B Team. Now THATS pure hilarity. The new Raw started out so good, and it has degenerated into a nothing show so quickly. I never thought I'd see the day when I looked forward to Smackdown more than Raw.

nWoCHRISnWo · 05-20-2002, 01:00 AM

I think one thing we can ALL agree on is that Hogan does WHAT he wants.

I mean, Triple ****ing H jobbed to him.

yes_yes i am · 05-31-2002, 03:56 PM

the only thing i dont like is how they are building angles character on comedy. name me 2 heels that have "succeeded" (wuts the word) on a comedy base? its jus not gonna work.

or maybe it is.

Professor S · 06-01-2002, 03:43 PM

Well Hogan did the right thing by giving up the title, but The Undertaker is the LAST person I would have liked to see him cough it up to. There is so much YOUNG talent that could have benefitted enormously from being put over Hogan, but then again, Hogan probably didn't want to do it. Egomaniac.

Angle has gotten over very well, but I agree, his current goofy heel gimmick won't get him over legitimately as a champion heel. But then again, no one cared when he turned face, so maybe this is the best thing for him. Besides, he's friggin' hilarious.

I think the best heel who was humorous AND crazy/dangerous was Piper back in the eighties. The man was a nut ball, still is, who actually cracked a REAL cocunut on Snuka's head without telling SNUKA!!! Plus he had a lighting fast wit before he went completely insane.

The WWE needs to change something because the rating continue to drop. While Hogan was getting 15 minute standing O's in Canada, hundreds of thousands, if not a million plus viewers tuned out. Hogan is not going to win any fans back or create any new ones, and neither is The Undertaker. And while I love RVD, he just isn't going to get over as a Champion. He sucks on the stick. Thats not good for business.

Honestly, I think the WWE needs to change direction completely. The public is simply tired of "Attitude". Its gotten old and the stars that made it so popular have gotten old too. The then WWF reached the top of the world by completely changing their product 6 years ago or so, and they need to do a 180 again. Base their product on in ring work with HEAVY focus on the titles. Get rid of the Euro belt too, and the Hardcore belt, unless they take the Hardcore division and make it HARDCORE. I mean tacks, barbed wire, fire, exploding electrified steel cage matches... the whole deal, and put the title up on PPV ONLY. Make it a MUST SEE event and go the whole nine yards with real hardcore wrestlers like Axel Rotten and Balls Mahoney and even Atsushi Onita if need be. I hate the current hardcore title, it means nothing the way it is now.

Other than that, I don't know what they could do to turn it around.