Metal Gear Solid on Xbox!

Bond · 05-11-2002, 06:35 PM

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/358/358939p1.html

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As part of its most recent financial report, Konami of Japan revealed that the next MGS game will be entitled Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance, and be developed for PlayStation 2, Xbox, and PC. The release includes specific news of major new titles, including "a second and third original title to follow on our Metal Gear Solid series," and "new original titles" bearing the Z.O.E brand.
Titles derived from the Metal Gear Solid series are to be released for multiple platforms, although the report seems to distinguish between "sequels" and "derivative titles." New sequels in the series are to be released every two years. Meanwhile, new games in the Zone of Enders franchise are being developed with worldwide release expressly in mind.

Aside from those major announcements, the release indicates plans to continue Konami JPN's successful exploitation of character-based franchises, including Konami's own Yu-Gi-Oh franchise and anime licenses such as Hikaru no Go and Tennis no Oji-sama, to produce titles for Gamecube, PlayStation, and Game Boy Advance. Altogether, the company plans to release 49 titles in the fiscal year ending March 2003.

Look forward to further news on Konami JPN's future plans, particularly new Metal Gear Solid and Z.O.E games, at the upcoming Electronic Entertainment Expo.

I guess Metal Gear will stay PS2 exclusive no longer...

There also is spoused to be some announcement of Metal Gear: Sons of Liberty coming to the Xbox at E3.

TheGame · 05-11-2002, 06:35 PM

http://www.funxbox.com/filters/contr...news.php?id=99

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In its latest financial statement, Konami of Japan today revealed that plans for a new Metal Gear Solid adventure currently scheduled for release on Xbox™, PC, and the Playstation®2. The new title, entitled Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance is said to incorporate "a second and third original title to follow on our Metal Gear Solid series," along with other titles under the Zone of the Enders brand.

Oddly enough, the game will still use the number 2 in its title, despite the fact that Metal Gear Solid 2 was already released under the sub-heading: "Sons of Liberty" for the Playstation®2 last Novemeber. Although it is unclear at this time exactly what these title(s) will entail, Konami has mentioned both "derivative" titles AND original content.

It is also unclear at this time who will work on this game, with the series' creator Hideo Kojima, at the conclusion of production of MGS2, stating that MGS2 was definitely his last MGS. Zone of the Enders, a new Konami series that also debuted on the Playstation®2 last year, is also reported to have a number of sequels/derivative games in development at this time.

The news brings excitement to a fever-pitch for Xbox fans, who have long-awaited news of this sort since the original confirmation of Metal Gear Solid 2 over a year ago. Konami now plans to release over 49 games in the 2003 fiscal year. Look for more breaking news from this year's Electronic Entertainment Expo later this month.

Coming out, just as predicted... the only thing is, it's not exclusive.... well, it's exlusively NOT on gamecube, but other than that, it's not exlusive

Bond · 05-11-2002, 06:40 PM

Well, Justin and I posted this at the exact same time.

So here is the first merged topic of the Xbox forum, looks quite interesting.

Jin · 05-11-2002, 07:00 PM

I wonder why it's not going to be made for the GC... ::shrugs::

Perfect Stu · 05-11-2002, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jin
I wonder why it's not going to be made for the GC... ::shrugs::

because mature games don't sell well on Nintendo systems...

Bond · 05-11-2002, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu

because mature games don't sell well on Nintendo systems...

That is a fact. Look at CBFD.

Jin · 05-11-2002, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Bond

That is a fact. Look at CBFD.

I don't doubt that it's a fact, but CBFD is a bad example. That game came at the end of the N64s life. If it had come 2 years earlier the sales would have been much better.

Bond · 05-11-2002, 10:36 PM

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I don't doubt that it's a fact, but CBFD is a bad example. That game came at the end of the N64s life. If it had come 2 years earlier the sales would have been much better.

Well yes, but it's one of the few mature games for the Nintendo 64, so it's one of the few examples that was can use. Obviously CBFD didn't sell all that great.

Although to be fair I do believe Perfect Dark sold well. That was a Mature game right?

DeathsHand · 05-11-2002, 10:42 PM

Actually I'm pretty sure PD didn't sell very good either... Just not as bad as conker... which was actually considered a flop...

Edit: Nevermind I checked it sold well

Notorious_1 · 05-11-2002, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Bond

Well yes, but it's one of the few mature games for the Nintendo 64, so it's one of the few examples that was can use. Obviously CBFD didn't sell all that great.

Although to be fair I do believe Perfect Dark sold well. That was a Mature game right?

Yes, Perfect Dark sold well (it was rated "M" for blood, and gore althought there was swearing in the game too). Not as well as GoldenEye, but it sold over one million. It's not that Mature titles don't sell well on Nintendo systems, it's just that there weren't/aren't that many AAA "M" titles on Nintendo systems. Conker was great, but as was said, it came out too late in the N64's life. Turok (the first one) sold well when it came out early in the N64's life cycle. Let's see how RE and ED do. Until then, stop the fanboyism please...

Bond · 05-11-2002, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Notorious_1
Yes, Perfect Dark sold well (it was rated "M" for blood, and gore althought there was swearing in the game too). Not as well as GoldenEye, but it sold over one million. It's not that Mature titles don't sell well on Nintendo systems, it's just that there weren't/aren't that many AAA "M" titles on Nintendo systems. Conker was great, but as was said, it came out too late in the N64's life. Turok (the first one) sold well when it came out early in the N64's life cycle. Let's see how RE and ED do. Until then, stop the fanboyism please...

Oh yes, I am obviously the biggest fanboy here at Game Tavern. Wow, I'm so happy no one else has noticed.

Here we go:

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If I had no hope I'd be at home playing my Nintendo. I wouldn't be playing a system made by Sony, Sega, or Microsoft, for if I was, I WOULD have hope...hope of finding a better system!

Anyway, I included an Nintendo 64 'M' rated videogame that did sell well and one that didn't, I'm sure there are more, but I don't have time to search for all of them.

Notorious_1 · 05-11-2002, 10:55 PM

I didn't say that. Just this comment "That is a fact. Look at CBFD." shows that A) you're a fanboy that doesn't know what a fact is B) you're a fanboy that's just having fun C) I take things too seriously.

So what is it, A, B, or C?

*I'm guessing you're going to say C*

Ah, you noticed my sig.

I just find it funny that a thread saying how MGS was coming to Xbox turned into how "M" games don't sell well on Nintendo systems. Sure, I know the question was asked why MGS wasn't coming to GC, but again saying "That is a fact. Look at CBFD." holds no truth. You don't see me turing threads in the GC forum into Xbox "bashes."

Bond · 05-11-2002, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by Notorious_1
I didn't say that. Just this comment "That is a fact. Look at CBFD." shows that A) you're a fanboy that doesn't know what a fact is B) you're a fanboy that's just having fun C) I take things too seriously.

So what is it, A, B, or C?

*I'm guessing you're going to say C*

CBFD did not sell well, that is a fact. As DH added: "... Just not as bad as conker... which was actually considered a flop..." Now I'm not sure if it was considered a flop or not, but I know for a fact that the title did not sell well.

Now from the games I have seen that are rated 'M' on the Nintendo 64 console they have not sold well. That is also a fact.

If we could please get back onto the main topic of this thread, which was the new Metal Gear Solid game coming to the PS2 and Xbox that would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: I wouldn't bash the GameCube. I own a GameCube, so then I would be bashing an item I own that I spent 200 dollars on. That wouldn't be the smartest move.

Notorious_1 · 05-11-2002, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Bond

CBFD did not sell well, that is a fact. As DH added: "... Just not as bad as conker... which was actually considered a flop..." Now I'm not sure if it was considered a flop or not, but I know for a fact that the title did not sell well.

You were refering to "M" games on Nintendo systems in general not selling well as a fact, not just Conker. Conker actually sold well in the first month. I don't remember what issue of EGM it was in, but on the top monthly sales chart, it came in at number 10. After that, it just disappeared. As for it being a flop....it's hard to say. Initially no, in the long run yes.

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Now from the games I have seen that are rated 'M' on the Nintendo 64 console they have not sold well. That is also a fact

Yes because like I said, there weren't many AAA "M" titles on N64. Perfect Dark was, and like I said, it sold over one million. That's a fact. And remember, Nintendo didn't advertise Conker well. Sure they had commercials on at late night and ads in Maxim, but does a cute looking squirrel appeal to adults? At heart, Conker was supposed to be a kids game, but by just adding blood, gore, crude language and sexual innuendos, it didn't mean it would appeal to adults, or people over 18. Potty humor is great for elementary school kids and immature people, but not for most adults. I throughly enjoyed the game however.

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If we could please get back onto the main topic of this thread, which was the new Metal Gear Solid game coming to the PS2 and Xbox that would be greatly appreciated.

Did you read this... "I just find it funny that a thread saying how MGS was coming to Xbox turned into how "M" games don't sell well on Nintendo systems. Sure, I know the question was asked why MGS wasn't coming to GC, but again saying "That is a fact. Look at CBFD." holds no truth. You don't see me turing threads in the GC forum into Xbox "bashes.""?

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EDIT: I wouldn't bash the GameCube. I own a GameCube, so then I would be bashing an item I own that I spent 200 dollars on. That wouldn't be the smartest move.

Where did bashing GC come in, we're talking about N64 and "M" titles on N64.

DeathsHand · 05-11-2002, 11:31 PM

http://ign64.ign.com/articles/093/093211p1.html

"Sources close to Nintendo have told IGN64 that Rare's M-rated 3D platformer Conker's Bad Fur Day has sold impressively under expectations. The game, which released on March 5, debuted with slightly more than 23,000 units sold -- a laughable unveiling by Nintendo standards -- and quickly dropped off the list. The game's next week saw sales of an additional 13,000 units, with that figure steadily decreasing. In total, BFD has generated sales of less than 55,000, according to company insiders. Worst of all, given the stagnant state of the Nintendo 64 market, Conker's popularity isn't likely to incur a sudden jump."

Just thought I'd post that

And also just to add to it (it was in a different story and I don't feel like finding it again), it said that Perfect Dark sold 250,000 in it's first week... and they compared that to Goldeneye which sold 200,000 it's first week... yep...

But anyways... here's the way I see it...

you can't be sure that conker would have sold much better than if it was released earlier (I mean it would have sold better, yes most likely, but like I mean a LOT better)... Buuut conker is still a bad example since yes it was released when N64 was like... dead or... just about dead... So yes we should wait and see how RE and ED do, although those might sell MORE than usual since they're like one of the very few highly anticipated games coming out on NGC anytime soon