Colbert is Rude

[GameMaster]

I never watch this show but I am familiar with the humor he and Stewart employ. However, when I happened upon this clip, I couldn't believe how genuinely rude Colbert treats this author (David Levy, author of Love and Sex with Robots). Maybe some of his guests are able to just laugh it off. But this guy just looks offended. That doesn't stop Colbert though. He just keeps insulting the guy and being a grade-A douchebag.

There's a difference between poking fun and just being downright rude. And obviously Colbert has lost sense of the line that differentiates the two.

[manasecret]

You say it, but it's obvious that you never watch the show. Yes, Colbert is rude. He's also a racist, sexist, generally conservative and Republican, an egotist and an egoist. He's lots of bad things. But it's all an act, it's the character he's portraying, and you're obviously not as familiar with him as you think. Have you seen his intro to interviews? You know usually the guest comes on stage to the applause of the audience? Not Colbert. He's the one that jogs over to the guest to the applause of the audience. He's a dick. On purpose.

Plus that's easily not one of the rudest interviews he's had.

[BreakABone]

I'm mre curious if you aren't a fan of the show.
How did you happen upon the clip?
Were you looking for information on human/robot love?

[Professor S]

Quite honestly, I've lost all respect for Colbert and Stewart. They are intellectual cowards. By couching their opinions and bias in "comedy" (its not even funny anymore, and I think Lewis Black is hilarious), they get a free ride to say whatever they please and never have to be held accountable for anything they say or conveniently omit from the discussion. The problem is, much of what they say is taken as fact by the left leaning audience they pander to, and little of it is honest.

I still remember when Stewart went on Crossfire and utterly insulted and ridiculed the show for not being good for discourse. I couldn't help but think:

"Crossfire is a live show where two sides get a point of view, while The Daily Show promotes essentially a single world view, and heavily edits all of their inteviews with dissenting opinions until they get a result that is to their liking."

So in Stewart's opinion, any show that doesn't just repeat a opinion he is confortable with is bad for public discourse? How very liberal of him?

Yes, Colbert is rude, but then again he calls it comedy and not intellectually dishonest insults, so its okey dokey.

[DeathsHand]

I remember when The Daily Show wasn't just about politics politics politics...
But come on... Intellectually dishonest cowards?

Especially with Colbert... I mean, he's someone who's frequently made a mockery of religion (This Week in God on The Daily Show, and numerous times in his attempt to portray his Right Wing character on Colbert Report), but is in fact a devout Catholic himself... Apparently even a Sunday school teacher at some point in time (though you can't always believe everything the internets tells you)...

And while I'm not saying he and Stewart are closet Republicans, and there's no denying that Jon Stewart leans to the left, I think that sometimes it's the same way with their political humor... Especially when you consider that they're not the only one's writing the material for the show...

But hey, for a number of years back when The Daily Show really hit it's peak, The Republicans were the ones in power... House, Senate and President... Them focusing most of their political jokes on the guys up top wasn't much different than how you're pinning the "intellectually dishonest coward" remarks squarely on the two hosts...

Though these are the opinions of someone who is not offended by anything... Except maybe people getting seriously offended by comedy (or "comedy")...

Quick on topic note: The Colbert interviews in which guests become frustrated with his act are cringe-worthy for numerous reasons..

[Typhoid]

The Daily Show and the Colbert Report are entertainment.
Don't go into it with the idea you're going to get facts and news - it's all supposed to be entertaining, in a tounge-in-cheek fashion, or sometimes a smack-in-the-face blatent fashion.

They even say they aren't news shows. Stewert often refers to it as a "fake news" show. And right there, that should easily tip you off that it's not intending to give people real news. Because it's not real news. It's a comedic spin on current events.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Quite honestly, I've lost all respect for Colbert and Stewart. They are intellectual cowards. By couching their opinions and bias in "comedy" (its not even funny anymore, and I think Lewis Black is hilarious), they get a free ride to say whatever they please and never have to be held accountable for anything they say or conveniently omit from the discussion. The problem is, much of what they say is taken as fact by the left leaning audience they pander to, and little of it is honest.

I still remember when Stewart went on Crossfire and utterly insulted and ridiculed the show for not being good for discourse. I couldn't help but think:

"Crossfire is a live show where two sides get a point of view, while The Daily Show promotes essentially a single world view, and heavily edits all of their inteviews with dissenting opinions until they get a result that is to their liking."

So in Stewart's opinion, any show that doesn't just repeat a opinion he is confortable with is bad for public discourse? How very liberal of him?

Yes, Colbert is rude, but then again he calls it comedy and not intellectually dishonest insults, so its okey dokey.

I agree with you. They are just awful. In fact, they're SO much worse than the entirely right-wing slanted politics of CNN and Fox News.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

I agree with you. They are just awful. In fact, they're SO much worse than the entirely right-wing slanted politics of CNN and Fox News.

Wait a second... did you just say the right wing slant of CNN? Are you on medication or something? Maybe you should take a nap, this topic seems to have rattled your senses...

And at least Fox openly invites opposing opinions on most shows, and live no less, and take ownership of their opinions unlike Colbert or Stewart.

My issue isn't with the slant, its with the cowardice and intellectual dishonesty.

[GameMaster]

I guess I'm not truly familiar with the stylings of Colbert's show.

It just seems to me that if you're guest isn't laughing let alone smiling at your jokes, you should either stop making them or at least make them less crude.

Oh well, let sleeping dogs lie, right?

[Dylflon]

Hey Strangler. There's something I've wanted to say to you for a long time.

Now, before I do, let me preface it by saying that this has nothing to do with your opinions per se. But just over the years, you have gradually weathered me to a point annoyed frustration. I dig what you're out there doing. It must be tough being the one guy on the boards that nobody generally sides with in arguments. And you have even helped put Typhoid in perspective for me. I have now realized that he exists entirely as an antithesis to you. Arguing as annoyingly as possible but on whatever side that you're not on. But why does nobody side with you I wonder?

Is it because there's some sort of SPOOOOKY liberal media out there brainwashing us all and you are the only real beacon of truth? You have been many things over the years. You've been a true Bush supporter through and through even through the times that we all noticed him driving your country into the ground and getting you all involved in illegal wars. You have been there as a watch dog to attack the sinister leftist television and movie personalities. And you have also always been there to argue in thousands of paragraphs against any and all who have opinions that differ from yours.

We've had an interesting relationship. And I've got to know you somewhat well over the years.

And it's with all this in mind that I want to tell you to go eat a dick.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Hey Strangler. There's something I've wanted to say to you for a long time.

Is it because there's some sort of SPOOOOKY liberal media out there brainwashing us all and you are the only real beacon of truth? You have been many things over the years. You've been a true Bush supporter through and through even through the times that we all noticed him driving your country into the ground and getting you all involved in illegal wars. You have been there as a watch dog to attack the sinister leftist television and movie personalities. And you have also always been there to argue in thousands of paragraphs against any and all who have opinions that differ from yours.

We've had an interesting relationship. And I've got to know you somewhat well over the years.

And it's with all this in mind that I want to tell you to go eat a dick.

Thank you for putting that into perspective for me. Such an enlightened and well thought out argument. You are an excellent example for those logic machines that exist out there on the left...

1) This board is NOT in any shape a microcosm of the opinions fo the world we live in. That said, there are more than a few past and present members who have agree with my views on these boards, they don't speak out on politics. This is a reflection of most people who have conmservative views... they behave conservatively, not necessarily speaking about it. Ever wonder why there are so few conservative protests yet many conservatives in the world?

2) You and others here keep on saying I'm a true Bush supporter through and through, statements which completely contradict most Bush related posts I've made. I am aupporter of out role in the Middle East right now, and I even criticized his methods there as well. I think Bush is a travesty domestically. But then again, that would require you reading my posts and not just confabulating my opinions based on what you would like them to be. You say that you've gotten to know me over the years, but your complete lack of understanding when it comes to anything political I've ever said pretty much illustrates that you know next to nothing about me.

3) I'm sorry if you despise differing opinions so much. I find that to be a trend on the left. My opinions aren't just divergent, they are insulting to you. You are offended that I dare speak out in ways that you don't agree. You DESPISE the discourse, and only answer it with "eat a dick"? I'm sure you thought you were being funny, but you only make yourself look like a fool and taint the values that you have spoken about so many times on this thread. And I'd much rather peak on complex opinions and world views in paragraph form than the two sentence, substanceless soundbytes those who share your opinions seem to prefer. After all, there should be reason behind opinion.

In the end, you are the perfect example of the modern liberal. You think not with your head, but with your heart and when people disagree they are BAD and don't merely have a different opinion. Thank God you can't vote in US elections.

In the end, if the best argument you can make against my posts is "eat a dick", then I have to say I've royally succeeded in this forum. You have been reduced to school yard taunts because your own views cannot sustain the light of a detailed, logical and thought out argument. Rather face these facts, you become insulted that someone dared challenge them. Good for you.

[Dylflon]

Man I'm messing around with you.

Go take your paragraphs to someone who cares.

In retrospect I wish I hadn't posted that because for some reason you can take my personal dislike of YOU as a person and use it to fuel your anti-liberal tirade.

Now, I was thinking of getting up and defending myself in a reasoned debate because I am actually capable of reason.

And it may blow your mind but I don't actually disagree with every word you write on these boards. But here's why I'm not going to say anything in defense of myself or to dispute any of the claims that you just made about me: because it's not worth the trouble. I don't really care enough about what you think of me to have to read the hundred paragraph barrage of your semantics and nonsensery.

But for the record: I am not a liberal. I just have ideas that people label as liberal.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Man I'm messing around with you.

Go take your paragraphs to someone who cares.

In retrospect I wish I hadn't posted that because for some reason you can take my personal dislike of YOU as a person and use it to fuel your anti-liberal tirade.

You don't even know who I am, much less be able to make a judgement as to whether or not you like me based solely on my political views. And it is my political views, not just the way I put them. You can't have a honest discussion with me based on facts and ideas, and I won't let ignorant chatter stand without rebuttal, so you decide you don't like me because I challenge you and your world view. How childish, especially considering how you are consistently wrong in telling what I think or even write about on these forums. Its just an excuse for you to ignore opposing points of view and a validation for not thinking critically.

Once again, being a conservative, I must be a bad person in your mind. You are a font of enlightened open mindedness. If it helps at all, I don't care much about you either way. Honestly, your posting on this forum doesn't warrant such a reaction.

Oh, and if you didn't care what I thought, you wouldn't bother responding to my posts. Try again.

[manasecret]

What I don't understand is what you three want from Prof. S.

Do you want him to agree with everything you (or someone else) says, to give everyone a virtual handjob all the time?

I can't believe that's what you really want. So if not that, then what? Do you want him to be nicer when he tells you you're wrong? If that's the case, then face it -- you would be upset no matter how he told you you were wrong. Typhoid in particular is told he's wrong practically every day by Prof. S, do you want him to be nicer, is that it? (Now I wonder if it's you, Typhoid that's actually wrong all the time, or if it's just that big meanie Prof. S just always picking on you with logic and reason?)

But seriously, each of you need to ask yourself -- what is it I want from arguing with Prof. S? If you want nothing, then you're wasting your time.

Oh, yeah, and let's everyone eat a dick. Because I know how funny that is.

[Swan]

I find it slightly amusing that the three discussing or arguing or whatever with him all happen to know each other in real life. No real correlation to anything just amuses me.

I almost feel as if I should join in just for the hell of it but I don't really have anything usefull to add. I also don't really care. This banter always amuses me.


So this post turned out to be of little use....Neat!