The Draft

Crash · 06-17-2005, 07:07 PM

why are people so against the freaking draft? What is the big deal? Is it because people dont want to have to do anything for their country?

Not that I necessarily want the draft, but if my country says "we need you to help keep our country together"

damn right I'm going, and without complaining. I hate all the people who always want other people to fight and die for their right to call Bush an asshole. It's america, we have rights that some countries will never have. There IS a cost for that kind of freedom. Who will pay it. I hate those people that say, oh I love my country, but then will do not a damn thing to help out when needed.

IF the draft is put into effect, so be it, quit your bitchin'. You should be glad to help your country when you are needed. If you dont wanna help your country when needed, get the **** out!

Jason1 · 06-17-2005, 07:10 PM

I might agree with you somewhat, if we actually had a reason to be fighting over there.

Acebot44 · 06-17-2005, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason1

I might agree with you somewhat, if we actually had a reason to be fighting over there.

Mhmm

Crash · 06-17-2005, 07:18 PM

not all of the soldiers over there totally agree with the cause, but they have to be there...

better to let them fight and die, than us right?

just because they chose to be in the military, doesnt mean they chose to go to iraq.

its a job that someone has to do whether you or they agree with it or not, so what is the difference if it's something you agree with or not, it's going to be done, and people are still fighting and dying for "what has to be done"

I dont agree with the justification there.

Typhoid · 06-17-2005, 07:35 PM

Because the draft is a forceful way to get you to go.

I know that more people would be willing to volunteer for the military given the proper time, rather than be forced into it.

I knw, I, for one, would volunteer for the Army if we were in a major war that needed soldiers, However, I would also be one of those people complaining about the draft.

And I dont like the whole "You dont want to do anything for your country?" argument against people that oppose the draft. They are doing plenty. They are part of the economy. They help run the god damn country. The more people you take out of a country, the worse its economy will do in the longrun.

And its not that people "Dont want to help their country", its that they dont want to join the army, and possibly die. If the army was their line of work, wouldnt you think they would be in it already?

Professor S · 06-17-2005, 07:39 PM

Crash, you also have to remember that all the soldiers over there signed up of their own volition, they were not drafted. They knew the deal when they decided to join.

I don't believe there should be a draft unless we are under the most dire of circumstances. I mean national defeat is on the doorstep. I don't think this current war qualifies, and I believe that once Iraq calms down, intelligence will be far more important than the military in terms of combatting terrorism. Roght now the CIA has its head way up its ass. Just ask my Delaware County rep Curt Weldon who just wrote a book about how f**ked up the CIA and FBI still are.

Crash · 06-17-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Crash, you also have to remember that all the soldiers over there signed up of their own volition, they were not drafted. They knew the deal when they decided to join.

I don't believe there should be a draft unless we are under the most dire of circumstances. I mean national defeat is on the doorstep. I don't think this current war qualifies, and I believe that once Iraq calms down, intelligence will be far more important than the military in terms of combatting terrorism. Roght now the CIA has its head way up its ass. Just ask my Delaware County rep Curt Weldon who just wrote a book about how f**ked up the CIA and FBI still are.

very well stated... I like thought out answers that explain good reason

Seth · 06-17-2005, 07:42 PM

Well, I disagree with crash on this one. (if I was a US citizen) and the draft happened right now, I'd dodge it. I'm not going to risk my life for something so intangible as a moral duty towards a nation which IMO is in Iraq for the wrong reasons.

If there was a force that had the potential to actually harm my country, and the enlistment of more soldiers was necessary for my country's defense, then I wouldn't need to be drafted, I'd probably volunteer. **** it otherwise.

KillerGremlin · 06-17-2005, 07:53 PM

I wouldn't go simply because I wouldn't kill anyone. I couldn't bring myself to killing someone. However, I know it's a dog eat dog world in Iraq, and in a kill or be killed situation I suppose I'd end up shooting - but, I doubt I'd let myself get into that situation. Call me a ***** or whatever, but maybe I'd be more motivated to kill people if I had reason to be doing it.