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Old 02-02-2005, 02:09 PM   #1
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In his essay Some People Push Back: On the Justice of Roosting Chickens, CU professor Ward Churchill argues that:

• The Sept. 11 attacks were in retaliation for the Iraqi children who were killed in a 1991 bombing raid and for economic sanctions imposed on Iraq by the United Nations following the Persian Gulf War.

• Hijackers who crashed jets into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11 were "combat teams," not terrorists.

• The people killed inside the Pentagon were "military targets."

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Ok... I'm not one to shun or exile anyone, but that is just insanity. How could anyone say that? 9/11 and the Pentagon may have been in retalliation, however that doesn't make it right to say those who died were not innocent.

And correct me if I'm wrong but the united nation sanctions in 1991 was not imposed only by America... the UN consists of many nations.

This guy just pisses me off entirely.

EDIT: This guy needs to re-educate himself... because Combat Teams are trained for combat and not suicides.
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Old 02-02-2005, 02:37 PM   #2
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I expect this thread to sprial downward but I'll give a small opinion.

A 757 (or whatever commercial airliner was mentioned) never hit the Pentagon. I've seen the proof and it was disturbing to say the least to see that the Gov't would lie about a disaster as big as 9/11.
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Old 02-02-2005, 03:26 PM   #3
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Default Re: Controversial Statements

there are live video feeds on the internet somewhere, showing the planes acually crashing into the twin towers...made me feel really disgusted when i first saw it.


as for the pentagon, i don't think a plane crashed into it either...the damage was too small.

and as for this thread, might as well lock it up now.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:21 PM   #4
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Dyne warned me about you, Kyuzo. Whispers from Middle-Earth say you like to stir up trouble.

Anyway, from our perspective, those statements are wrong. From Iraq's perspective (or the people who ruled Iraq), the statements are right. There's really nothing to debate. It's an opinion.

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Old 02-02-2005, 04:23 PM   #5
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I was just looking at the conspiracy sites which argue that the towers could not have been brought down by jet fuel and that there is evidence of demolition packages present in both the towers and building 7. Crazy sounding stuff
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:39 PM   #6
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i dunno about that... maybe there was an insider...

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Old 02-02-2005, 04:50 PM   #7
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Honestly, a plane to the top of the buildings (WTC) couldnt have brought them down.

Some say it was the fire that brought them down.

But Im fairly certain that they were to be able to withstand a fire without collapsing.

And about the plane and the Pentagon, I think it hit the ground in front of it, and basically evaporated because the heat, and impact.

What about the plane over Pittsburgh...or Pennsylvannia or something, Why did it just go down when it was heading for the White House? American Jet planes shoot it down? Who knows.

Honestly, The whole thing is probably some huge cover-up. For what? Who knows.

I doubt it would be by The President, because would he risk his own people like that? And 2 of the landmarks of New York? No, he wouldnt risk his own people, because he would lose popularity.

But wait.

The WTC and attacks spawned the war, and spawned relief, which basically is the basis of EVERY G.W.B speech. We've all heard how "America Is safer" and how "9/11 changed the world" and things.

Could Bush have wanted this to happen? Without this, would he still be President? Would he have any basis for a speech? What basis could he have gone to war on, if not a Terrorist attack?

Like I said, None of us will ever know whats going on now. And if we do, it wont be until we are in our 70's or 80's. When it makes no difference, and the scandal changes nothing.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:53 PM   #8
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i dunno about that... maybe there was an insider...

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