My Liberal Views

Professor S · 06-29-2004, 04:32 PM

There seems to much confusion as to my political affiliation on these boards, seeing as most people I argue with here would probably put me somewhere between Adolf Hitler and Sauron the Deceiver. This is somewhat understandable since I usually only reply to debunk left wing anti-war commie pinko bull****(

) that has little to no basis in reality or historical precendence.

But the truth is I ain't Republican, and in many issues I'm not even remotely conservative. So I thought I'd list them and see what those who love to label me think about my views on them.

Legalize Weed Marijuana is illegal for reasons I still can't comprehend. It does less damage to you and is less addictive than alcohol. It can be made into clothing, plastics and fuel, all renewable. This sort of leads me into the the next topic...

Elimination of Oil as the Main Source of Fuel and Plastics Much of the trouble we are in overseas is directly our fault. We let several backwater nations who had gone nowhere for thousands of years grab us by the nuts because they had oil and we needed it. Now look at whats happened. Without the West's reliance on oil there would be no Saddam Hussein, no Osama Bin Laden, and most likely no terrorism. Why? Because they would have continued to have nothing and kill each other for the rest of recorded time. Oil changed everything. Get rid our need for oil, and you get rid of the problem.

Gay Marriage I'm a heterosexual. How does Gay Marriage affect me? IT DOESN'T AND ISN'T ANY OF MY GODDAMN BUSINESS TO BEGIN WITH. I can't beleive this is even an issue.

Increased Funding of Public Schools Schools need more teachers. To get more teachers we need to make it worthwhile to both go through the hassle of all the regulations you have to pass to get certified and deal with 30 brats per class. Pay them more. Decrease class size. Increase vocational classes. Bush's No Child Left Behind act is a joke. All it does is increase the pressure on students and schools to the point of breakdowns by using standardized testing to judge performance and then funding. You want to not leave any children behind? Try giving them a class size that they can actually function and learn in.

Elimination of Church From State This one is already in the friggin' constitution, now all we have to do is actually ENFORCE IT.

I have some others. I'l post them later.

Typhoid · 06-29-2004, 04:38 PM

So if you are for these said things, why do you usually argue against them in sme threads?

Looking at these views, they are freakeshly similar to mine ( except for church and state, i dont have that problem) Which arises, how do we get into so many arguments over things like these?

And i want to say me and dylflon ( im pretty sure) hate Liberals, but then again a Canadian Liberal and an American Liberal are 100% completely different things, so i cant associate you with a Canadian party yet....

jeepnut · 06-29-2004, 04:44 PM

I simply do not believe that full and complete separation of Church and State is possible. That's like trying to seperate business and state.

Professor S · 06-29-2004, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

So if you are for these said things, why do you usually argue against them in sme threads?

Looking at these views, they are freakeshly similar to mine ( except for church and state, i dont have that problem) Which arises, how do we get into so many arguments over things like these?

Well we don't argue over things like these, we argue over the war for the most part, and I believe in a strong and active military and believe that creating a democratric muslim nation could literally change the world and be the first step in having some semblance of world peace.

But once again, this is not about my right wing views, its about my left wing views.

Jonbo298 · 06-29-2004, 05:13 PM

I agree with everything there.

Legalizing - Do it. People smoke it for a reason. If people want to ruin their lives, let them. In about 30 years, they will regret it.

Oil - We desperately need more funding in other energy sources. We're slacking and its gonna bite us in the ass in 20 years or less.

Gay Marriage - Let the people marry and do what they want. Let's try and not make another 1960'/1970's again but with a different issue now. People are too pansy and think we all work under one religion or something that says "Gay's are bad". They are regular people just like us. All they have is different tastes.

School Funding - This is an area in desperate need. All too often have I seen teacher shortages and overfilled classrooms. The Government needs to stop making wars with everyone and help the people in our country for a change.

Classic Rocker · 06-29-2004, 05:16 PM

I believe we should get rid of the whole classification of Liberal and Conservative. The country needs unification. The only thing these parties want is control, not to benefit the common people.

Basically, getting rid of the left wing and right wing philosophy would be a good idea.

Stonecutter · 06-29-2004, 05:31 PM

Hey Strangler:

Abortion?

Crash · 06-29-2004, 05:48 PM

I'm republican but i agree with some things democratic:

Gay marriage. I dont agree with it, but it isn't my place to say they can't get married, that is stupid for us to think we can tell other people how to live.

School funding: teachers are some of the hardest working people in america... give em more $$

but.

weed: dont need to legalize it, just going to make more people look and act stupider. like we need more people running around like drunks do and kill people in cars. Compare it to alcohol? Get rid of that too, I dont give a crap.

Polically correct views: I hate em, affirmative action is retarded (and i'm technically a minority, and still think it's BS)

Liberals need to get with the program and stop being so idealistic and be more realistic. then maybe i'd like em better.

Professor S · 06-29-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonecutter

Hey Strangler:

Abortion?

In an ideal world I would be against it, but this is not an ideal world and as Socrates said... "S**t happens". I do not support it, but I tolerate its existence.

However I am deeply against partial-birth abortions as partial-birth is basically semantics for excusing euthanasia. In fact, I do not agree with any abortions that take place after the first three months of pregnancy as after that I believe the fetus has developed enough to be considered a child and not merely a potential human life.

Joeiss · 06-29-2004, 07:15 PM

Legalize weed, and tax the hell out of it. That would make government lots and lots of cash. And then obviously the alcohol rules would apply to marijuana as well... Maybe even stricter.

Typhoid · 06-29-2004, 08:32 PM

Im for abortion, ( I know the way i said that makes me sound evil) But its the womans choice.

And i dont think the fetus is considered a "child" until its born.

When a pregnant woman who has 3 kids already, gets asked how many kids she has, she doesnt say 4, she says 3, and one on the way.

Meaning its a developing child.

So if after 3 months a fetus is considered a child, are they counted in the census reports? Do they get a passport yet? Birth Certificate? Christmas Presents? No, because they arnt technically people yet.

If a house is being built, 3 months into the construction you dont consider it a full-blow house yet, its a house in construction.

Such is a baby, they are people in construction if you will.

It takes 9 months to develop a baby, not 3, or else the baby would be out in three months if "mother nature" deemed it sufficient enough time.

Crash · 06-29-2004, 08:58 PM

yeah, but dont they also say,

can you feel the baby kicking?

they dont say, can you feel the fetus kicking. or, can you feel what-is-going-to-be-a-baby-later kicking

Joeiss · 06-29-2004, 09:51 PM

abortion stops a beating heart....

Seth · 06-29-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Looking at these views, they are freakeshly similar to mine ( except for church and state, i dont have that problem)

You wouldn't mind it if your government forced you to go to church on Sunday? How about requiring you to pay tithe to a church?

Explain to me why you think church(religion) should have any purposeful integration with government please.

Crono · 06-29-2004, 11:19 PM

I'm for abortion, but sometimes I think things like "let the stupid slut who got laid put up with that damned child to be, no matter what it does to her life, it's the bitch's responsiblity now".

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Originally Posted by bouncer

You wouldn't mind it if your government forced you to go to church on Sunday? How about requiring you to pay tithe to a church?

Explain to me why you think church(religion) should have any purposeful integration with government please.

I'm Catholic, but my opinion is that religion needs to stay out of government and politics. People use their religous ideas and take them too far.

And Christianity won't last much longer anyway, it'll eventually disappear out of constitutions, with the new generation of youth and all. Islam, on the other hand...