RIAA: It starts...

[gekko]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

Some key points:

The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day

Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."

U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer

In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as "representative recordings" of music files available for downloading from these users.

There was some evidence the threat of an expensive lawsuit was discouraging online music sharing. Nielsen NetRatings, which monitors Internet usage, earlier this week reported a decline for traffic on the Kazaa network of one million users, with similarly large drops across other services.

[GameMaster]

Originally Posted by CNN

A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA.

Yeah, we're fighting back! Down with the system!

*hides music and iPod just to be on the safe side*

[gekko]

But couldn't they just take them out of the shared folder to begin with?

The only sad part is how many people really don't know that it's illegal. How many people wanted music and had a friend set it up for them, and they just download songs not knowing? I mean, $750 a song? Yikes.

Now for the people who know it's illegal and don't care, it'll be fun to watch their faces on court TV.

[GameMaster]

Do you still download music?

[Null]

it'll be interesting to see how many they actually win. there are all sorts of ifs and buts. and i read somewhere the court system is getting tired of a lot of the RIAA's silly lawsuits and actually has ruled against them many times.

i mean if the court wants to, they can find loop holes and things that may make all this not even worth it for the RIAA.

this is no where near the end of it. IMO the RIAA is digging themselves more and more into a hole which one day even they might not be able to climb out of.

you cant go around sueing the people you want to buy your stuff. instead of finding a new way, the RIAA is trying to keep the old ways.

i can actually see a new recording instustry pop up at some point and challenging the RIAA, with more music artists joining them. (dunno how to word that exactly how im thinking).

time goes by, things and ways of life change. you cant cling onto the old ways. instead of using this to the RIAA's advantage, they fight it.

[Sykkie]

Originally Posted by Null

you cant go around sueing the people you want to buy your stuff. instead of finding a new way, the RIAA is trying to keep the old ways.

This is because the RIAA is made up of a bunch of criminals. They're happy to sit back and lie about the cost of a CD. They're happy to lock CD prices while people download music. The RIAA is a perfect example of corporate business crying poor when they're still rolling in cash after another slumping CD year.

Blame the internet? Blames yourselves, RIAA.

[Yoda9864]

on their networks known online by nicknames such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."

Oh ****, that's my screenname!

*runs away*

[Jason1]

so as long as we have the newest version of kazza lite we're safe it seems...good. LOL@Yoda

[Null]

Originally Posted by Jason1

so as long as we have the newest version of kazza lite we're safe it seems...good. LOL@Yoda

not exactly. but it would prolly frustrate them even more if the program gave no user names. therefor they couldnt look up ppl. and wouldnt list what everyone has.

there will always be a way to grab your IP address tho. for that is how the program works. they need ip addresses

and even if the program doesnt show them. ppl can still find them. Download a song or send it to someone. check net stats and that ip address would be listed as your connected to it.


so there would be ways. just a matter of making it more difficult for them.


Now im not sure, but IF someone made one with a central server located in a country that wouldnt cooperate with RIAA, and when you download a song you connect to it first therefor it could hide your IP address ..... maybe

[Happydude]

Originally Posted by Null

not exactly. but it would prolly frustrate them even more if the program gave no user names. therefor they couldnt look up ppl. and wouldnt list what everyone has.

there will always be a way to grab your IP address tho. for that is how the program works. they need ip addresses

and even if the program doesnt show them. ppl can still find them. Download a song or send it to someone. check net stats and that ip address would be listed as your connected to it.


so there would be ways. just a matter of making it more difficult for them.


Now im not sure, but IF someone made one with a central server located in a country that wouldnt cooperate with RIAA, and when you download a song you connect to it first therefor it could hide your IP address ..... maybe

sounds like a plan...

all we need to do is email someone high up to do that for the users

[gekko]

Originally Posted by Sykkie

This is because the RIAA is made up of a bunch of criminals. They're happy to sit back and lie about the cost of a CD. They're happy to lock CD prices while people download music. The RIAA is a perfect example of corporate business crying poor when they're still rolling in cash after another slumping CD year.

Blame the internet? Blames yourselves, RIAA.

The RIAA has every right to want to end music piracy. But putting someone in jail for downloading a song isn't the way to go. But it doesn't have to be. I garauntee you no one here has the balls to download a song after they get a supeona in the mail.

The RIAA can send them out, sue the biggest violaters, and drop the charges on the rest. It's like speeding when a cop is driving behind you, you just don't do it. Send any person a supeona and they will stop downloading songs immediatly.

And no, I don't download songs anymore. Never was a big fan of it, never will be. I've used iTunes for 3 songs, the rest I just buy the CD.

[One Winged Angel]

LOL... I find this funny that only the peole who suport the RIAA are...

*cough Mac Users...

[Null]

why would that make a difference??

mp3's arent computer specific to macs or pc's

and itunes isnt just for mac users. there are websites that do the same thing for PC users. a few of em. some even cheaper then itunes.
and they are making itunes for PC anyway.

[One Winged Angel]

No it's not that. Maybe my friend is retarded but he says he cant download any music on his damn Mac.

[BlueFire]

I downloaded Kazaa ++ a few weeks ago. A lot of results.. It blocks IPs from RCIAA, although i don't know how credible that is. And it puts your rating at Supreme Being.

www.kazaakpp.com