Canadian army....

KillerGremlin · 03-21-2009, 04:07 PM

BaB just informed me that:

France spends more money on their military than Canada!

Canada....yo army so whack Poland could invade yo country!

Also, the US spends a lot of frickin' money on military...

Fox 6 · 03-21-2009, 04:16 PM

We've never been a huge military power. This is a known fact.

Also France is a nuclear power and has the fastest tank on the modern battle fields today.

KillerGremlin · 03-21-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fox 6

We've never been a huge military power. This is a known fact.

Also France is a nuclear power and has the fastest tank on the modern battle fields today.

Damn those French bastards....

*sooo muchhh hatteee*

Fox 6 · 03-21-2009, 04:18 PM

Guess they are trying to prove they can win a war......................................................

BreakABone · 03-21-2009, 09:22 PM

Reminds me of a quote from HIMYM,

She got married in Canada.
Lily: Yeah, like their money and army, nobody takes it serious.

Dyne · 03-21-2009, 10:39 PM

Wow, so when people say the US spent 3 trillion on the Missile Defense System over the years, they're not joking.

Good god.

Professor S · 03-23-2009, 09:27 AM

There is no need to arm yourself when you have a friendly neighbor who is armed to the teeth and openly protected your borders for 40 years. This is not meant as a purjorative, because if I were Canada I'd take advantage of that happy coincidence as well. The US also protects most of the world's trade routes as well.

But while the Canadian military is small, from what I've heard they are very well trained, not unlike the British military.

Ric · 03-23-2009, 09:48 AM

Look at these figures seriously.

With the world in economic meltdown is it right for the US to still be spending over half of its countries wealth each year on it's military. Do they even really need it? Whilst millions suffer in poverty as a result.

I think youll find the figures for Britain are incorrect. I live along the same stretch of ocean as the largest naval base in the country and they just got a whole bunch of new boats. That must have cost a bit. Mind you, we dont need to spend so much. Were better at using what we have already got.

A friend of mine is a Royal Marine. On recent shore leave he was with a group of americans. One of them carried a card, given out by his commanding officer. On the front it said 'Do Not Drink, Fight or Gamble With The British' and on the back it said 'Because You Will Loose' I found this very amusing.

What is the point of a country having the largest army if they dont use it effectively? In WW2 the canadians were with us from day 1. We had to wait years for the yanks to get on board. Largely due to Nazi sympathisers living in the U.S. Dont forget there was a national vote in U.S history as to wether the predominant language of the country should be German or English. George W Bushes grandfather provided Nazi germany with a third of the Iron and steel they needed to wage world war, fact!

Anyway I am going off topic. The main point I want to raise is, can the US army justify this spending? With more and more becoming uneployed and loosing their livlihoods every day. We are the ones who will suffer the fallout of this economic disaster us and our children. It could all be solved with a simple fix. Cut military spending by 50%.

Professor S · 03-23-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ric

Look at these figures seriously.

With the world in economic meltdown is it right for the US to still be spending over half of its countries wealth each year on it's military. Do they even really need it? Whilst millions suffer in poverty as a result.

So the American military is responsible for world poverty? And by the way the US publicly and privately donates more money to figt world hunger than any other country in the world, as also is the largest contributor to the UN's fight against pverty and world hunger as well.

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I think youll find the figures for Britain are incorrect. I live along the same stretch of ocean as the largest naval base in the country and they just got a whole bunch of new boats. That must have cost a bit. Mind you, we dont need to spend so much. Were better at using what we have already got.

So you're evidence to disprove these numbers is the fact you saw some new boats? I think your personal objection to military spending are tainting your objectivity on this subject.

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What is the point of a country having the largest army if they dont use it effectively? In WW2 the canadians were with us from day 1. We had to wait years for the yanks to get on board. Largely due to Nazi sympathisers living in the U.S. Dont forget there was a national vote in U.S history as to wether the predominant language of the country should be German or English. George W Bushes grandfather provided Nazi germany with a third of the Iron and steel they needed to wage world war, fact!

Old facts. More facts? Rolls Royce supplied Nazi Germany with over half of its fighter and bomber engines. Is that a reason to hate Rolls Royce today? No, because those people are dead and gone. All we can expect from the past is to learn from it, not judge people today based on it.

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Anyway I am going off topic. The main point I want to raise is, can the US army justify this spending? With more and more becoming uneployed and loosing their livlihoods every day. We are the ones who will suffer the fallout of this economic disaster us and our children. It could all be solved with a simple fix. cut military spending by 50%.

Thats a very simplistic argument, with too many rebuttles to post here. Suffice to say: Enjoy the freedom, peace and prosperity your military powers have afforded you. Good intentions do not defeat men with evil intentions. Well trained armies do.

Dylflon · 03-23-2009, 12:59 PM

Hey man, don't mess with the Canadian army.

Or else they'll tell on you!

Professor S · 03-23-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

Hey man, don't mess with the Canadian army.

Or else they'll tell on you!

While funny to joke about due to the size of Canada's military, I think the Canadian military has a largely unsung but proud history. They had shit duty on D-Day, climbing up rock faces to take out artillery that could have ruined the entire enterprise. Now, maybe this wasn't quite as shitty as running through a football field length of barbed wire, landmines and machine gun fire, but hell... I wouldn't want to do it, and it took a ton of training and skill.

Dylflon · 03-23-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor S

While funny to joke about due to the size of Canada's military, I think the Canadian military has a largely unsung but proud history. They had shit duty on D-Day, climbing up rock faces to take out artillery that could have ruined the entire enterprise. Now, maybe this wasn't quite as shitty as running through a football field length of barbed wire, landmines and machine gun fire, but hell... I wouldn't want to do it, and it took a ton of training and skill.

Oh I was just joking.

I think our army is very well trained and has a long history of kicking ass when necessary. Especially in World War I where they were feared by the Germans. Feared!

KillerGremlin · 03-23-2009, 01:43 PM

The sad irony is all the boats, planes, infrastructures, personnel....

it's all really useless in the wake of a major nuclear war.

And isn't that what we really are worried about?

BreakABone · 03-23-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ric

Look at these figures seriously.

With the world in economic meltdown is it right for the US to still be spending over half of its countries wealth each year on it's military. Do they even really need it? Whilst millions suffer in poverty as a result.

I think youll find the figures for Britain are incorrect. I live along the same stretch of ocean as the largest naval base in the country and they just got a whole bunch of new boats. That must have cost a bit. Mind you, we dont need to spend so much. Were better at using what we have already got.

A friend of mine is a Royal Marine. On recent shore leave he was with a group of americans. One of them carried a card, given out by his commanding officer. On the front it said 'Do Not Drink, Fight or Gamble With The British' and on the back it said 'Because You Will Loose' I found this very amusing.

What is the point of a country having the largest army if they dont use it effectively? In WW2 the canadians were with us from day 1. We had to wait years for the yanks to get on board. Largely due to Nazi sympathisers living in the U.S. Dont forget there was a national vote in U.S history as to wether the predominant language of the country should be German or English. George W Bushes grandfather provided Nazi germany with a third of the Iron and steel they needed to wage world war, fact!

Anyway I am going off topic. The main point I want to raise is, can the US army justify this spending? With more and more becoming uneployed and loosing their livlihoods every day. We are the ones who will suffer the fallout of this economic disaster us and our children. It could all be solved with a simple fix. Cut military spending by 50%.

The simple answer to the start and end of your point is this is what we spent in 2007, long before the whole economic mess started and I believe we are trying to cut back on military spending.

But at this point we are like the sole superpower, and the unofficial guardian of the Western Hemisphere.

Bond · 03-24-2009, 12:05 AM

It's been a long held view of many Western intellectuals that some powerful democracy (in this case, the United States) must dictate objective morality throughout the world. If not, by default, that morality will be dictated by dictatorships. You could look at our military as a proxy to serve these means.

Our generational military superiority will also keep us in a position of strength when our power inevitably declines.

Also, for fun, compare military spending to medicare/medicaid and social security spending in the United States. You'll run into some interesting numbers.