Nintendo feels like a broken record

[Neo]

I like Mario games just as much as the next Nintendo fan, but this is getting ridiculous. Nintendo knows Mario sells and they milk every last drop out of the mario utter. Just when you think it's gone dry they manage to squirt you in the face with another stream of mario milk. It's seriously time for Nintendo to develop some new characters and let Mario, Samus, and Link rest for a while. I would even be happy if they released a new punch-out or kid icarus title. But honestly Nintendo needs to try their hand at new franchises if they want more than to simply hold on to their tiny piece of the pie. Pikmin was a good start but they can't be afraid to try new things. Sure some of them might fail but businesses don't grow by standing still.

Revolution needs to launch with Punch-Out, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings, and a couple other refreshing titles. Mario and Donkey Kong won't sell systems beyond the core audience.

[Bond]

You're realizing this just now? Wow... this has been Nintendo's problem for a long time now.

[Neo]

No it's just starting to piss me off now.

[DarkMaster]

And admist all their milking crap, they still haven't taken advantage of a true, 3D Pokemon RPG title on the GameCube. I guess they aren't the kind of company that likes to make $100,000,000+ on a single game.

[Perfect Stu]

I originally bought a PS2 for new franchises already established on the PSone, and a different library of games that wouldnt be on Gamecube. At the time, I still planned on buying a Gamecube.

What's pissing you off pissed ME off at that very time and Ive still never bought a Gamecube and don't plan to.

[Typhoid]

Yeah, Everyone knows they milk it all up.

But its like saying Playstation is milking up GTA, or MGS because they know it sells.

I only plan on getting my own Gamecube because of the new Zelda game coming out. Thats the only reason. Zelda games are good games.

[Jonbo298]

I agree they need more new characters. I wish they would've taken time to make an all new DS Mario game rather then re-hashing an old one and making new things in it. A new Zelda that appeals more to gamers is a start but maybe some more variety then porting and rehashing games already released.

I've still yet to see a new Mario game on the GBA that isn't a port or the RPG, etc...That's the problem with Nintendo right now. They would rather hash out old games then make new ones.

But hopefully with Revolution, a new kick ass Mario comes out at launch and a few months later a new kick ass Zelda game comes out. Launch also with a Super Smash Bros. melee game that takes full advantage of online play. Throw in a few new games within months of launch that are new characters that everyone can enjoy. Don't go the route and make violent games. There's enough as it is.

[Joeiss]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Yeah, Everyone knows they milk it all up.

But its like saying Playstation is milking up GTA, or MGS because they know it sells.

I only plan on getting my own Gamecube because of the new Zelda game coming out. Thats the only reason. Zelda games are good games.

3 MGS games spanning 7 years and 2 systems isn't milking it at all, IMO. And GTA is milked on all systems, not just the PS2.

But the thing is, these games are kick ass. And until they start sucking, I want them to release games every other years ago or so.

And Sony is on the verge of milking Jak and R&C... But I think Jak is just a trilogy, so there won't be any more for a while... And R&C is still going strong, so I want them to make more, haha.

[Blackmane]

I fully 100% agree with you, Neo. All this crap, especially Mario and Zelda crap (yes, even Zelda crap) needs to stop. Thats all it is with Nintendo anymore.

Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Baseball, Zelda 4 swords garbage, Zelda Minish cap garbage (who knows if that will be good or not), heck, even Super Smash Bros. had only characters they are comfortable with like Link, Mario, DK, ect.

I am so very dissapointed with my Gamecube right now. The only new thing I truly enjoyed with Viewtiful Joe, and that wasn't from Nintendo.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

But its like saying Playstation is milking up GTA, or MGS because they know it sells..

who is Playstation?

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

who is Playstation?

Haha...oops.

Obviosuly, I meant Sony. Im int he middle of writing my grad comment, so i'm not all here. I arnt all being too smrt right now.

Yes.

Smrt.

S-M-R-T.

[Perfect Stu]

well even Sony...they didnt make GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas, MGS2 or MGS3

you would have to pin that on Rockstar and Konami, they're the ones profiting most from those titles.

And even THEN...I wouldnt call it milking. I'll say Vice City was more of a cash-project more than anything, but GTA3 and San Andreas, not so much.

[Stonecutter]

Originally Posted by DarkMaster

And admist all their milking crap, they still haven't taken advantage of a true, 3D Pokemon RPG title on the GameCube. I guess they aren't the kind of company that likes to make $100,000,000+ on a single game.

I think that ship has sailed. Pokemon isn't nearly as popular as it was like 3 or 4 years ago.

It was downright retarded when they didn't release a 3D Pokemon RPG on N64.

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

I originally bought a PS2 for new franchises already established on the PSone, and a different library of games that wouldnt be on Gamecube. At the time, I still planned on buying a Gamecube.

What's pissing you off pissed ME off at that very time and Ive still never bought a Gamecube and don't plan to.

If it wasn't for Metroid Prime I doubt I'd have kept my gamecube. I bought it origionally because of Rogue Squardron II because RS1 was one of my favorite games ever. It was fantastic for a launch title, but I'll probably never play it again. Super Monkey Ball is an ALL TIME classic, but I could live without it too.

[thatmariolover]

Meh. It's always been this way, and yeah I'm frustrated by it. And yeah, I think Nintendo needs to branch out. However, I also like Link, and Mario, and Samus. I mean, I understand that you guys want something new. But When it comes to those titles, I've not disliked one of them. Yeah, they hit me with them a million times, but I still keep buying them and I still keep enjoying them. So I'm not going to bitch. Nintendo needs more 3'rd and 2'nd party support to pick up the slack while they still do what they do.

In all reality, I think people forget that Nintendo is a software company as well as a hardware company. And if you think of it objectively like that, they come out with as many new games that aren't based off of previous franchises as any other software developer. Which is to say, not very often. Capcom will always do Resident Evil, Konami will always do Silent Hill and Resident Evil, and Nintendo is always going to do Mario and Zelda. And I am still going to buy their stuff as long as I enjoy it.

Originally Posted by Blackmane

Zelda Minish cap garbage (who knows if that will be good or not)

I wish I could slap you. Not really, but I just want to emphasize how serious I am when I say that Minish Cap is incredible. I've been playing through the leaked ROM (oh God don't flame me, please) and it's absolutely incredible. I can't get enough of it. I fully intend to purchase the game when it is officially released.

[TheGame]

Nintendo should keep Mario a platformer, and Zelda a 3D RPGish game I don't mind getting a lot of the TRUE games in the series' because they are all good, but slapping Mario and Link's name on every title that comes out for marketing purposes is annoying.

-EDIT-

And changing up an already perfect formula is annoying too. Some of us just want more of the same. Improve the gameplay, but don't change how the game is played. (if that makes any sense... think Mario 64 vs Mario Sunshine)