PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS

tarakan69 · 06-15-2004, 06:19 AM

1.Nintendo's Handhelds have ALWAYS been dominated by first party software.

Sony's platforms are almost ALWAYS lead by third-party games. GTA, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Kigdom Hearts, and SO MANY OTHERS.

2.Sales for the GBA are huge... but the average GBA owner owns slightly more than 2 games.

3. I got this from an article.
(I'll try to find it later)

More than 50% of the GBA userbase is under 15 years old, and RELY ON OTHER PERSON to buy the handheld for them.

So even if you know 30 year olds that play the GBA... they are in NO WAY REPRESNTATIVE of the majortiy of the GBA userbase.

4. Sony is breaking into a STAGNATE, MONOPLIZED MARKET. This market had NO competion.

The untapped potential that lies in this userbase is greater than the one Sony tapped with the PS1 after the SNES vs Genesis generation. Sony will probably hit a gold mine that Nintendo has never even TOUCHED.

5. Last but not least the demograph of the PSP will most likely not buy a puny 2 games for their handheld. We can expect the number of games that the consumer will to be easily more than 6+ (Noting the average PS2 gamer owns over 12 games). This might yeild more units sold for the third-party developers even with a potentialy smaller userbase.

This is of course MY opinion. Discuss.

Canyarion · 06-15-2004, 06:47 AM

Ok let's form an defense for Nintendo:
1. Nintendo has a huge userbase with the GameBoy. People (especially young ones and old ones) will stick to what they know.

2. DS is backwards compatible, so you can instantly pick up 1000s of (retro) games AND sell your AGB while keeping the games.

3. DS is released slightly earlier than PSP.

4. DS is more of a 'revolution' than an 'evolution'. PSP has the potential of coming close to that, but DS has it standard (and here I'm mainly talking about the touch screen). Gamers will appreciate that.

5. Japanese instantly fall in love with gadgets.

6. DS has Pokémon. Have you seen the Pikachu demo?? Japanese will go crazy over that! Portable fun, wireless gameplay, innovation....

bobcat · 06-15-2004, 07:33 AM

Dunno if it's just me, but honestly I can't imagine playing epic games on a handheld. I just don't have the time to look at a handheld for so long.

But the PSP/DS do still look exciting, I'm just a bit worried about the games to be released on it. If it's games like FFVII, and MGS then I probably won't play them because they take way too long to play.

That's why I love my GBA and Yoshi's Island

That game is so fun.

MuGen · 06-15-2004, 09:10 AM

IMO... there shouldn't be anymore of these threads outlining the good and the bad of both handhelds....

too many...

tedious...

annoying...

i'm about to explode..

DarkMaster · 06-15-2004, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

DS has Pokémon. Have you seen the Pikachu demo?? Japanese will go crazy over that! Portable fun, wireless gameplay, innovation....

Wait a minute....Pokemon is on handhelds now!?!?

HOLY SWEET

Jonbo298 · 06-15-2004, 01:16 PM

1) The reasons Nintendo's handhelds have dominated by first party software is because 3rd party companies half ass a game to the GBA. Nintendo takes time to make a GBA game.

2) Oh well if they only own 2. As mainstream as gaming has gotten, not everyone needs to blow money on many many games.

3) What is wrong with a majority being a young userbase? Tell me what is wrong with that. I don't see anything wrong with it. Nintendo has stated in the past that getting hold of the young userbase also is a good thing because as they get older, they will buy more games, consoles, etc...Your just one of them blind people that thinks kids dont help the industry. Remember, back in the 80's/90's we were kids playing games. And look where we are now.

And who cares if we know 30 year olds who aren't a majority. They are playing games, they are helping keep the industry alive.

4) Yes, the handheld market is a little one-sided but it has a little competition in Japan the most. There has been attempts in the past but the US market never embraced other handhelds enough. I've already said in the past that the handheld market needs some competition so I'm just stopping here.

5) I'm just leaving that alone.

Perfect Stu · 06-15-2004, 02:02 PM

I agree with the long-term 3rd party support idea. Sony seems to have very solid relationships with 3rd party developers, and I also think that the PSP will have a higher software attach rate than previous handheld systems.

BreakABone · 06-15-2004, 02:34 PM

You know I have the opposite logic.

Would someone be more willing to buy Metal Gear Solid for PSP or PS2/PS3?

I mean sure the games look good, they look almost PS2 quality, but em... what makes em different?

Mario/Zelda/Metroid till exist on the GameCube and GBA, but the games look and to some extent play differently on each system, you have a reason to buy them on handhelds.

Also, I;m just curious as to how you find that the average PSP gamer will be a large amount of games?

I mean there are somethings, I can understand from press packets and info and stuff like that, but that just seems to be your own belief, not backed up by anything solid. I mean not even a nugget you stretched.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 06-16-2004, 01:49 AM

i think the DS and PSP will make a steady competition toward one another. Each have huge fanbases, i personally prefer the PSP, but the dual screen idea is enticing.

Canyarion · 06-16-2004, 11:01 AM

That's a very interesting thought BaB has there! All games start looking like eachother. We've all played polished versions of MGS. Do we need a portable version of it?
The DS on the other hand will continue to bring innovative, new games.

All in all, I think Nintendo will do just fine.

Perfect Stu · 06-16-2004, 01:40 PM

of course the PSP will have no original content...simply ports from existing consoles

Jonbo298 · 06-16-2004, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

of course the PSP will have no original content...simply ports from existing consoles

*realizes that smiley didn't accomplish much and leaves*

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 06-16-2004, 11:29 PM

ya that pretty much explains my feelings toward taht coment

Canyarion · 06-17-2004, 11:02 AM

My point is that the PSP doesn't offer much extra over the PS2, besides being portable.
Nintendo has made a whole new machine.

I'm not saying the MGS game is a port. I'm not saying PSP will only get ports (I know it won't). I'm just saying that so far, I've only seen portable sequels to / versions of PS2 games (it could just be me...).
Nintendo has shown a lot of totally new content for the DS. ...

DeathsHand · 06-17-2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

My point is that the PSP doesn't offer much extra over the PS2, besides being portable.
Nintendo has made a whole new machine.

Well past gameboy's didn't offer anything over the current consoles of the time, besides being portable (and outdated)...

And I think PSP offers some stuff... like ummm......... errr.... well........ I'll get back to you on that one...