Zelda GCN Speculation or What You Want to See in the New Zelda Game

Ginkasa · 05-13-2004, 11:20 PM

Remember that thread waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when, during the time where we thought The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker was going to be realistic and everybody was hyped up about it and the release of the GCN (or was it still Dolphin then?) and there was a super long thread about what people would like to see in the next Zelda game?

This is something like that.

Post what you think would like to see in the new Zelda game for the GCN. What things should they bring back from WW or other past Zelda games? What should they leave out? What should they add?

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I, personally, would like this to be Wind Waker 2 beyond just the code name. What happened to Link and Tetra/Zelda after King Hyrule reflooded Hyrule and told them to find a new one? Where did they go? What did they do?

That's the story I want to here. It would make sense for Nintendo to do it, too, since they seem to be a on a continuous storyline streak with the console Zelda games. First we had Ocarina of Time. Then Majora's Mask, the sidestory with the same Link from OoT. Then the Wind Waker, the story sequel to OoT, showing what happened to Hyrule centures after the original 3D game and the 2nd battle (storyline wise) between a Link and Ganon.

Wouldn't it be cool to have the new Zelda be the story of the establishment of the new Hyrule, etc? Itw ould explain some of the geographical differences between OoT and ALttP....

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I am also in support of voice acting for this game. Obviously, Link shouldn't have a voice beyond the "Hyah!"'s we've been getting, but everybody else should. Or at least the main characters like Zelda and Ganon and any Sages or whatever. The plot essential characters.

Text is outdated and unnecessary. Final Fantasy fans got used to the change from text to voice, so can Zelda fans.

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What would you guys like to see? I'm not very good at this kind of thing, so I KNOW you can do better than me ^_^

*shrugs and walks away*

GameMaster · 05-13-2004, 11:22 PM

A story mode where you can play from the perspective of either Link, Zelda, or Ganon. I would love to play as Ganon.

Ginkasa · 05-13-2004, 11:28 PM

I don't think that would really work for the Zelda series. It'd take away from the main game as Link.

Besides, I can't imagine Ganondorf walking through dungeons solving puzzles and stuff. And except for the whole thing with Sheik, Zelda's been more than "Send Link to do my dirty work" kind of girl.

I just can't see something like that being anything more than a disadvantage to Zelda. Besides, than you'd have to have at least two endings (one for Link/Zelda and one for Ganon) and that would drive the storyline speculation fanboys crazy.

More timelines than you could shake a sword at...

*shrugs and walks away*

ZebraRampage · 05-13-2004, 11:31 PM

I like your ideas Ginkasa, but I definitely want this one to be realistic. Also..maybe there could be some co-op parts where you and other characters in the game have to do something..and the second player can be the other character. A good example would be like in Wind Waker when you needed to bring..the two characters(can't think of their names at the moment, though I think one was called Makar) into the temples.

The Germanator · 05-13-2004, 11:39 PM

1.Way more dungeons. I'm talking 50 (or at least 11 like A Link to the Past) dungeons here. I don't care how long it takes me to beat them, gimmee some goddamn dungeons...

2.A bit more meaningful smaller enemy battles. Usually there isn't to much worry in the smaller enemies that you fight throughout Zelda games. They are usually more of a formality than anything. I'd like either more small-scale battles or some tougher enemies.

3.Lots of sidequests. I know there are usually a pretty good amount of sidequests in Zelda games already, but they are one of the best parts of the game, so I want a lot of extracurricular activities to do.

4.Just text.

5.A very engaging story with a decent amount of cinematics. I'm not talking MGS cinematics here, but enough to really get me into the game.

6.Big towns. I love walking around Kakariko village and talking to the townies. It's so relaxing.

7.Lose the Zoras and Gorons and such. I thought they were very cool when they were around, but I'd like to see something new, just to mix things up a bit.

Can't think of much else, and I'll be pleased with whatever happens.

DeathsHand · 05-13-2004, 11:44 PM

As I've said, I would have liked a WW2 where they find the new continent, explore, build, etc...

But since that's not happening... I want Zelda to be realistic in more than just graphics...

Hunting, eating, resting, etc... I want all your kinds of areas to explore... Big open fields, lakes, forests, streams, swamps, an ocean (not as big as that in WW, but enough for there to be some fun islands and things to explore)... Everything... With multiple, bigger towns (not just 2 or 3 main ones)... And I don't want all the townsfolk to be happy people getting along perfectly fine...

I definately want a raft... I still want my fun going down a stream through a very foggy forest...

I want the overall plot to be more than just ganon and zelda... No matter how it's disguised (This girl is really Zelda! And look here's ganon!)...

And I would love it if there was a town like in Suikoden (best example I could think of) or whatever which grows as you go through the game... New buildings are built, new stores start up, new townsfolk move in, some people die, etc...

Yeah...

Oh yeah, and I want it to take time to cross these huge enviornments... At least for the first time exploring, I want it to feel like you're truly traveling miles and miles... Then they could work in some system later in the game that makes travel faster (besides the horse)...

Ginkasa · 05-13-2004, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand

As I've said, I would have liked a WW2 where they find the new continent, explore, build, etc...

But since that's not happening...

We don't know that. A different gaphical style does not mean that this is a different Link or a game that isn't a sequel to The Wind Waker. They were referring to it as WW2. Nobody's ever said anything that would seem to imply that Zelda GCN isn't not actually WW2.

*shrugs and walks away*

DeathsHand · 05-13-2004, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginkasa

We don't know that. A different gaphical style does not mean that this is a different Link or a game that isn't a sequel to The Wind Waker. They were referring to it as WW2. Nobody's ever said anything that would seem to imply that Zelda GCN isn't not actually WW2.

*shrugs and walks away*

IGN says it's not going to be called Wind Waker 2, and it's not going to be a direct sequel to any of the games...

However, another thing I forgot to mention is that I hope it still has good backstory and ties to past games like WW did... WW was a huge step forward for a Zelda story...

Ginkasa · 05-14-2004, 12:38 AM

The actual name has nothing to do with it. Majora's Mask was not called Ocarina of Time 2 nor was The Wind Waker.

And I don't know where IGN got that it wasn't a direct sequel to any of the games. That wasn't said in any of the interviews. I haven't seen the press conference, though...

Does it say anything about that in it?

*shrugs and walks away*

DeathsHand · 05-14-2004, 01:03 AM

I could have sworn when I read that roundtable, the developer talked about how the game will not be called Wind Waker 2, and won't be a remake or a sequel.. hmmm...

"So Mr. Aonuma actually wasn't lying at the Game Developer's Conference when he said we were working on Wind Waker 2. He just didn't tell the whole story. And fortunately because he didn't tell the whole story, we were able to surprise you all here with a big announcement about the series."

That quote makes it sound like it WILL be a sequel to WW, which I think would be neat.. If it skipped ahead a number of years, Link is now grown up, they've already found the new continent and established a few towns, but there's still a lot of exploring to do and what have you...

But I thought I heard it was confirmed to not be a sequel...

Edit: Oh, and another thought... It doesn't even have to be the same link in the game... It could take place generations in the future where there is already a nice established hyrule, and the backstory to the intro could be the story of what happened after WW... So technically it wouldn't be a true sequel to WW... Unless you count WW to be a true sequel to OoT...

Typhoid · 05-14-2004, 01:21 AM

Isn't it a different Link in every game? Thats what someone told me...but then i got to thinking, how many people in Hyrule are there named Link and Zelda?

Jonbo298 · 05-14-2004, 01:51 AM

When Miyamoto said that they made this zelda more mature because Link is a teenager, it got me thinking. WW was told from the perspective of a kid link. And kids always like bright stuff and whatnot. And now that Link is older, everything is more dark and realistic around him. And tells everything like it is. So this can still be called WW2 because now its a few years later and link is a teen that sees things in a darker way then when he was a kid.

What I just said is speculation since Nintendo has yet to reveal if the new zelda ties in with WW or not.

DeathsHand · 05-14-2004, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Isn't it a different Link in every game? Thats what someone told me...but then i got to thinking, how many people in Hyrule are there named Link and Zelda?

Weeeelllllll everyone knows the character as Link... But since he's never actually been called Link in any of the recent games themselves, and you can name him whatever you want, the heroes names in the timeline don't necesarily have to be Link... It's just what they use for reference... In OoT it's the "Hero of Time"... In WW, it speaks of a "Hero dressed in green"... No name is given, and you can name him what you want...

Another possibility is mentioned on a timeline site, about how it's like a legend... a prophecy, that a hero specifically named Link will appear to save Hyrule...

As for Zelda, I read somewhere on a timeline site that because of something with the very first rulers of Hyrule, it's a tradition for a princess to be named Zelda... Which sounds like a reasonable explanation to me, with royal traditions and all...

Dyne · 05-14-2004, 02:06 AM

I said it before in a previous thread, but I want FULL ORCHESTRAL MUSIC. I don't care if Nintendo has to bust their balls doing it. They did it for SSBM just fine. Do it for Zelda!

Canyarion · 05-14-2004, 06:55 AM

Ok here's my famous button lay-out (some big site even used my C-stick idea):

Left stick: move around like you do in Oot, TWW....
C-stick: swing your sword (with this function you can run and swing at the same time and do the coolest sword moves)
L: jump (yes, jump)
R: defense, with different levels of shielding: a quick sword defense, a quick shield defense, a 2 handed shield defense and finally the click: a magical shield
A: use item
D-pad: select out of 4 items
the other buttons: dunno, rolls perhaps, stuff like that. Action button (for a hop on your horse..).

Yeah I agree with Dyne, Nintendo has GREAT tunes, but in game, they only use the simple versions.