Iraq

Kitana85 · 10-21-2003, 09:34 AM

So, we've been there for ages, we discovered that there never were any Weopans of mass distuction to begin with, and it seems all we've accomplished is making everyone, including the Iraqi people mad at us (Americans), and we gave the Taliban more power...

I thought this was an intersting article

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/101803A.shtml

what do you guys think... about the article and about Iraq in general.

Happydude · 10-21-2003, 09:46 AM

holy sh!t, that is one long article...can anyone summerize it for me please, i just woke up and i don't feel like reading so much

fingersman · 10-21-2003, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitana85

So, we've been there for ages, we discovered that there never were any Weopans of mass distuction to begin with, and it seems all we've accomplished is making everyone, including the Iraqi people mad at us (Americans), and we gave the Taliban more power...

I thought this was an intersting article

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/101803A.shtml

what do you guys think... about the article and about Iraq in general.

I agree with most of what the guy is saying they really need to use a bottom up approach in rebuilding the country, and the admin needs to stop being so full of pride and admit that they made a mistakes and think up of a proper policy. I really don't think that the adminstration is being fair to the troops or the troops families. Alot of this would not be happening if post war planning was done properly.

Dylflon · 10-21-2003, 03:07 PM

I think it's funny that Bush has no plans of going into North Korea when they know that Korea has weapons of mass destruction. But he went into Iraq.

Now why would bush go into Iraq? Hmmmm.

Jonbo298 · 10-21-2003, 03:35 PM

This is just my opinion, but I really feel the Administration was using Iraq as a way to increase Bush's popularity but it backfired majorly.

If we do find solid evidence that Sadaam did have WMD's, then good for Bush. But it shouldn't have taken so long to find them.

But I never felt threatened by Sadaam. Bush keeps trying to say he was a threat to America, but yet I never felt threatened. I feel more threatened by North Korea and yet Bush isn't trying hard enough.IMO

Bond · 10-21-2003, 03:48 PM

Oh god, if only gekko was back...

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 10-21-2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

Oh god, if only gekko was back...

lol, jeses christ this would turn into a 6 page argument within hours

The Duggler · 10-21-2003, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

Oh god, if only gekko was back...

Why has he left?

Kitana85 · 10-21-2003, 04:44 PM

He's at boot camp or something... and if Geeko decides to post here intellegently, on either side of the issue, that would be great... if not, well, I mod this forum....

Ace195 · 10-21-2003, 04:52 PM

Okay, I don't know who gekko is but myself I'm in the army and if Gekko Joined the army kudos to him.. I didn't support what we were doing in the first place but now that we went there I do support it now. I think that saddam should have been taken care of ages ago. And that even if there are no weapons of mass destcuction this time that him killing his own people is enough for me in my opinion to get him out of power. That and I support our troops in full.

Happydude · 10-21-2003, 04:56 PM

i hate you all, why wont anybody sumarize it for me?!

Kitana85 · 10-21-2003, 05:04 PM

happydude, just read the first sentence of each paragraph

Ace195 · 10-21-2003, 05:10 PM

And then post it for me because my works server blocked that IP

Happydude · 10-21-2003, 05:51 PM

bah, too many paragraphs, too lazy, i'll just leave this topic alone

Rndm_Perfection · 10-21-2003, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

I think it's funny that Bush has no plans of going into North Korea when they know that Korea has weapons of mass destruction. But he went into Iraq.

Now why would bush go into Iraq? Hmmmm.

Saddam's an evil bastard and a potential threat (well, not as much anymore). Give him his psyche and the fact that he was ruling a nation sitting on about a trillion dollars worth of black gold, and he starts looking like a reasonable target.

Despite being in practically a third world country, it was "possible" for Saddam to have the WoMD, even if not probable. Controlling oil put Saddam into a power position where he could buy some weapons when needed. Oh yeah, and did I mention he is an evil bastard? ¦¬Þ

North Korea may claim to have Nukage... if they don't, they aren't a threat, and if they do... we better not make them a threat. Y'see, if Saddam really did have the WoMD, the odds of him using them in combat when we hunted him down was slim, as he'd get himself even more killed. Instead of hiding out like he is now, he'd've gotten himself bombed to hell. I guess somebody knew this and took a chance.

North Korea, on the other hand, wants us to know that they have the capability to nuke. Well, if that's the case... then what would keep them from using the nukes if we attacked them? There's a chance that the validity of their claims is being investigated but not televised. Also, North Korea doesn't plan on launching those nukes if we're not already attacking, as a launched nuke would provoke an attack and get them all killed needlessly. What it appears is that NK is wanting to bait the US into bribing them to not use their WoMD.

I back the fact that Bush drove Saddam out of Iraq. I wish they could have guaranteed Saddam's death... but getting him out of control was a good step. Getting rid of the threat to the United States will take steps. In some ways, the seizing of Iraq has put the US back, but in others, they've advanced. In all, I feel the Iraq "war" was for the better. I may be wrong though/